Posted by harts0002 (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Great job everyone!

Posted by BeautifulMe (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is wrong to put peoples names in the public like this BEFORE they are convicted folks! Common sense!!!! It is WRONG! No matter if these people are guilty and will be found of it. They are Innocent people until a judge hears their case.

What if some of these people are completly innocent and now they have this to deal with because of irresponsible media editors and police..who should not give out this info to them until the crime has been heard before a judge!! I know several people who were wrongly accused...names thrown in the paper...and the judge appologized in the court room for THEIR mistakes!! BUT, the names had already been thrown out there...but the damage was already done..by the irresponsible people in charge of our county!

It is just wrong and there is no way around it!! It just gives the people who LOVE this stuff so they can call around and gossip about other peoples LIVES!!

That is my opinion!

Posted by lishad (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Any arrest is unfortunately a matter of PUBLIC record. If it was a child molester that had been arrested I bet there wouldn't be any flack about their name being released PRIOR to their court date! It sucks to have your name in the paper for such things, but its the price you pay when you choose to play!

Posted by BeautifulMe (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You are right lishad.....the price to pay whe you choose to play. BUT there are always innocent people who are wrongly accused and their names are thrown out there like they are criminals and they have to deal with the scrutony of everyone who likes to trash people in this town.

It can be public record AFTER they are convicted!! AFTER, NOT BEFORE! That is wrong an should be against the law!!

The people in charge of running things like this and allowing it to happen have a very bad judgment problem IMO and should not be in charge of making these decisions. Any adult, caring, constructive person(s) for this county should realize it is wrong to do this BEFORE someone is convicted. The DA should know this, the police and the media editor...SHAME on you guys!

Two wrongs don't make a right!

Posted by harts0002 (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You know Beautifulme, you must not have any children. Well I do and I for one would like to know if someone has been arrested for drugs and certain other charges, you may see it as wrong, but I see it as the right to keep the public informed. I will tell you what, you keep a copy of this paper and in a couple of weeks or so there will be more info in the paper about the ones that were arrested, such as if they were found guilty or if they pled to there charges and so on. You keep up with all of that and then come back and let us know how many of them were wrongfully arrested. I am not going to say that it does not happen, but it is not an everyday occurence as you make it sound.

And in my reading the article nowhere in it does it state that these people are guilty, it just simply states that they have been arrested for such charges.

You know what? It is crazy how in every article that the star news post you are some how ridiculing what they write about, last time I checked that is what the news paper is for is to keep the citizens informed. If you displike the paper so much and disagree with so much of what they write, why in the world would you bother to even read the paper? Now, that makes NO SENSE!

And futher more, you would think you had the decency to get on here and compliment all of the assisting agancies for the great job that they have done in rounding up these individuals. Everyone likes to complain that law enforcemnt does not do there jobs, but when it is put right in your face telling you that they have, you still want to complain, is there anything that will ever make you happy? These men and women put there lives on the line for you everyday and you can not even show an ounce of graditude. Step down off of your high horse and remember who keeps it safe for you to be able to lay down in your bed at night and walk around your neighborhood and not have to be concerned with your safety. You should also be thanking the news paper for keeping you informed!

Now as I said earlier, Great job and thank all of you for your hard work and great efforts! Also thank you to the star news for keeping the public informed!

Posted by mike (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

of those 26 arrested, how many posted bond? understanding the fact that people should indeed pay for their mistakes, were the bonds of those arrested set so that they could still get out of jail to spend christmas with their families? there is an overcrowding problem in that jail. people are forced to sleep on the cold floor where they are bitten by spiders. they are people to, who just like you and i, have managed to make a mistake.

Posted by mike (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

harts0002, beautifulme, was just making a good point. i am a convicted felon...you talk of these agencies as if they were gods. listen here...there are officers of the APD, as we speak, that smoke pot and then turn around and arrest others for it. I HAVE PERSONALLY SMOKED MARIJUANA WITH THREE OFFICERS ON THE APD FORCE RIGHT NOW. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY AREN'T AS GREAT AS YOU CLAIM. there is one on the APD and one on the COUNTY DEPT. that have children who DEAL DRUGS and have been for 14 years and counting. thier "law enforcement" fathers ARE aware of this fact. and they have been. one of them was caught, not by his father, and sentenced to 12 years. also there was a case i was personally involved in earlier this year where a parolee...(one who is currently on parole) broke into his neighbors house and stole a gun. he tried to sell it to me and i went to the guy it was stolen from and reported it to him. the PAROLEE has a cousin on the APD who is a detective. the very detective who handled this particular case. do you know who went to jail? keep in mind, the guy whose house was broken into was recently married, with 2 children. he worked at nights at the time and his wife would be at home alone with an infant and toddler. the back door wouldn't even shut because of damage sustained after being kicked down. our gracious detective you are commending told the victim that it would just be an ongoing fued with his neighbor and it would be best to not press the situation... thank you.

Posted by harts0002 (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mike, I am not exactly sure what your comment had to do with beautifulme's comment or mine for that matter. I never said they were gods but I do believe they should be commended for what they do. You can not judge all of law enforcement by the few that you mentioned in your post. That would be about like some one thinking badly of you just because you are a convicted felon. They could judge you by the other convicted felons that they know or have dealt with. Would that be right to you? You may be a completely changed man that learned from his mistakes, but then could be judged just like the ones that haven't. Commend the ones that do their job and do it right and you will keep good law enforcement, beat them down and show them no appreciation and then see what happens. Our society would be in complete chaos without law enforcement.

Posted by alhm (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mike is so smart. We should let all the prisoners out so they can go home to spend Christmas with their families. And maybe we should consider letting them out on all the holidays and birthdays and maybe even the weekends. Then, there would really be no point in ever going to jail except you wouldn't have to work and you would get free meals. But, then there would be NO punishment at all involved.
Also, getting spider bit is not a reason to let people out of jail. You can get bit by a spider at the house in the bed.
I say good job to local law enforcment and those of us who abide by the law thank you.

Posted by mike (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ok alhm....i don't recall having said to let anybody out of jail. mike is pretty smart and if you would have read my bulletin you would have realized that it was talking about the outrageous bonds that covington county has such as a few weeks ago there was an article about a man arrested on child sex charges and released after only a $2000.00 bond where as most bonds you see in covington county are in excess of $1 million. until you know what the message or comment is about, why respond?

harts0002...i really didn't too much respond on that...but she did have a good point. the constitution states that one is innocent until proven guilty....why put ones name in the paper saying that they were arrested for it if there is a chance they are innocent? i understand that people just want to know about whats going on in the community as well, however, there should be legal limits on each situation as far as that goes. now as far as the other, no i have no right to judge the entire police dept. based on the actions of those few bad officers. i have no right to judge anybody because GOD will do that. it's not my place nor is it yours. However, being a convicted felon i am forced to live with judgement everyday. i am going to be 28 years old next month and can't find a job to pay all my bills. minimum wage at 20-25 hours a week will get you nowhere in life. because of this, i am probably going to end up back in jail for the remainder of my fines. i was turned down from Paris Packaging, Shaw, Sitel, and a few of the other better paying jobs here in covington county just because of the fact that i was convicted of felonies when i was 19 years old. Thats how our society works...once you get in trouble, nobody else cares and is willing to give you a chance. so yeah, i face the judgement on a daily basis.

Posted by admin23 (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 5:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mike, find a job. Quit putting the blame on someone else. If you know of these officers smoking "dope" with you why not turn them in? Obvioulsy you've got a computer, internet access, quit paying for that and pay your fines. You owe the lawyer, the state, the restitution, the victims, the tax payers for your stay in prison. Pay up. Personally, I am thankful we have the capability of knowing about the arrests. If it were me would it suck? Yes. Would I know I did it to myself, yes. These arrested were all arrested for crimes in which they were indicted. Not only the officers did an arrest warrant, the grand jury had to indict. Read the story. That means a group of your peers had to find enough evidence not to convict but to indict. But as harts0002 said earlier, beautifulme, if you'll play closer attention to the papers you'll begin to see the names of these same people pleaing to the charges. So if they aren't guilty I guess you're saying they're just doing that because there is no way out without it? And the whole spider bite, nothing to eat. Uh, don't look to me like anyone is going hungry over at the CCJ and the overcrowding, well they shouldn't be committing crimes, what are going to do let them out to do it again? That would be smart.

Posted by nurse (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I do commend our officers. They are out there everyday protecting our civil liberties...many times unappreciated and spat upon by society. They certainly aren't compensated by their hourly wages, which are currently less than one would make at Shaw or Wal-Mart. I am married to a police officer and I know first hand what kind of danger they are put in on a daily basis. But, they do it and don't ask for much in return...just a little respect. Yes, there are bad cops out there and unfortunately, they have made a bad reputation for all of law enforcement.
As for the allegations that the inmates suffer from spider bites...I worked at the jail for a while. The spider bites that have been spoken of, many are meth sores that have been picked at until they become infected. Those "spiders" often appear as a result of the inmates shoving paper, clothing, etc into the small windows in order to keep light out so that they can sleep later in the mornings. Yes, I know this for a fact. I have been into the main jail block and I have seen the blocks. The State has to assume the responsibility for these "spiders" and the treatment of said bites. Of course, I am not accusing anyone of anything...just stating my observations.
Also, yes everyone is innocent until proven guilty. But, as it has been said, all arrests, divorces, marriages, deaths, births, etc are all a matter of public record. It is terrible that these things follow us in our lives, but they do. People are wrongly accused. However, in their public record it is documented that all charges were dropped or if the person was convicted. Our jails are full of people who "didn't do it", believe it or not!
In closing, I commend all of our officers. They are appreciated and I want to personally thank them. THANK YOU!

Posted by mike (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

admin23...again...don't put words in my mouth. where did i say it was anyones fault but my own? where and who am i pointing fingers at....don't argue with me over nothing. if you read the messages it plainly states that i have a job. thanks for the advice. i, as a taxpayer, i have my fair share of paying the salary of the police...as do you...why would i want to pay them then do thier job too? that, my friend, is the smart move huh? as far as a computer and internet access...if it weren't for the grace of god and kindness of my brother his wife and 4 children, i would be sleeping in my car. why would you even say such a thing. how many people "indict" or "convict" these people with no evidence as you are clearly trying to do me? i'm not the one who said that they were innocent or whatever. chances are, the majority of them are guilty. but is it our place to judge that? no. my peers, the same ones who convict them are the same ones who hold my past against me. ever think about the fact that we are human? ever read the bible? there was one who was perfect. there will only be one who is perfect. as long as people like me (who have changed but are looked down upon by society) can't find a job, we can't pay these fines. does what i did 10 years ago mean that i should go back to jail? i have allready done my time buddy. you don't know the life. when you do...you should speak about it. you can't be judgemental all your life about things you know absolutely nothing about. as far as going hungry...umm....again...where did i say that at? show it too me....but truth be told...go stay there a day or 2 and try out that food and see if you are filled up. thats not my business anymore though b/c i won't be going back as long as i have GOD by my side.

Posted by mike (anonymous) on December 19, 2008 at 11:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i too commend all of our local officers who are worth it. There is one man who has carried a badge in this county that deserves respect in my personal opinion. That is former sheriff Anthony Clarke. the rest of them, believe it or not, i have seen from BOTH sides. they are crooked. UNTIL YOU HAVE SEEN BOTH SIDES...DON'T JUDGE ME. don't preach to me about society. how many of you have ever told your 17 year old that they couldn't go out over the weekend b/c of something that happened when they were 10? people change. people make mistakes. they don't ALL deserve to been locked up without a chance to prove themselves. those of you who think that are full of satan. i admit it is fact that MOST people go to jail "didn't do it" i'm not one, yet, im treated as if i were. i'm a new man. i have grown up considerably over the last 10 years. i just want to settle down, have a good life. have kids and live my life to the fullest but b/c i was a hardheaded stubborn kid, you, our society that i have no choice but to live with, will not allow that. I DO HAVE A JOB. AGAIN I DO HAVE A JOB. but nobody can live off what i make. not even without the fines. bills are so high now that people making $16.00/h plus are hardly getting them all payed. think about that.

Posted by lishad (anonymous) on December 20, 2008 at 2:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Admin23 are you for real? You tell Mike to "get a job"? Do you even LIVE in Covington County? Where would you like for him to get a job with wages decent enough to survive on?? Do you have one to offer him? Will you hire him? Unlike the 26 that were just arrested, Mike has been arrested, been convicted and DONE HIS TIME! He was a stupid kid that made a mistake nearly half his lifetime ago, he paid his debt to society, and he's still paying. As I said, public humiliation comes with the territory when you choose to play the game, there are consequences for our actions, without them we would have Chaos! HOWEVER, one shouldn't have to pay for a stupid mistake for a lifetime! Unfortunately being unable to find a decent job is a fact of life in Covington County as are dirty cops, corrupt judges, and the Good Ole Boy system , being a convicted felon isn't necessarily why Mike can't find a better job. As to him having a computer and internet access, how do you know what he or anyone else has???? Is it possible that he used someone ELSES computer, or perhaps the computer at the library???? Again so fast to jump to conclusions and condemn folks. Walk a mile in his shoes!!
What was your felony Mike? Did you murder or rape anyone? Did you harm a child in any way? If not come to Destin, I'll give you a job you can more than make ends meet on! I have no problem with helping someone who's trying to help themselves!! As to the "dope smoking" "officers" and their drug dealling children, I know of whom you speak, and its the truth folks--believe it or don't but its TRUE, and those in power know it too, and turn a blind eye! You should really consider reporting it to a higher authority OUTSIDE of Covington County! Evil prevails when good men do nothing!

Posted by lee (anonymous) on December 20, 2008 at 3:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My Question is this. If you know WHO these officers are then why don't you report them? If i knew any officers doing that i would turn them in a heart beat. Do you have something against these officers or what. And as far as posting their names in the paper i agree with it. I want to know who was arrested. Wake up people its call PUBLIC INFORMATION. Always remerber you are innocent untill proven guilty.

Posted by admin23 (anonymous) on December 20, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My goodness looks like Mike has a congregation. If you think I'm full of Satan because I tell you to get a job and stop whining you're extremely lazier than I originally thought. And if I were you, lishad said that they could give you a job in Destin making enough to pay your fines off, take off. Here's the thing, you get chance after chance if you have done all your time, are paying your fines, have finished your probation/parole time then why not write the governor for a pardon? I know many local felons who have received pardons, full pardons. Why, not the good ole boy system but because they actually made something of themselves and their lives after committing crimes. They took their mistake and made that into something positive to help keep kids out of trouble and show them hard work is the way to make it in life.
Talking trash about the officers, making up lies about the courts and the old addage "the good ole' boy" system has just about run it's course around here. I can tell you this I know all prosecutors for Covington County on a personal basis and there is no "good ole boy" system. Just the law. Go see for yourself. And as for the cops here, I happen to be a very close relative to a few of them and believe me, if APD officers are smoking "weed" they'll be caught. Just like anyone else.

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 20, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I say good job, and get the rest!!!...lets rid this county of the slime thats trying to take over. I'm sure each and every person that was arrested had good reason to be, All these people using drugs, stealing and writing worthless checks know better!!..they know their day is coming..and it did!!!!..once again GREAT JOB!

Posted by Ineedtobeheard (anonymous) on December 21, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just a few comments here.....I agree with nurse in everything that she said, and I believe she knows what she's talking about. As far as GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT....that's a bit far IMO. We have a court system, though it's not the best, but I believe in the majority of the cases, the accused are treated fairly, namely, appointed council if they can't afford, and for the most part, many of them never spend one night in the jail. I have had experiences with our court system, both in my personal life as well as the lives of my children. Not everything is what we want it to be or turns out the way we want it to. I've personally never spent a night in the jail, nor do I want to, but I believe we have them for reasons, so that the guilty or convicted guilty can be housed away from society for their given sentence. As far as the names being printed in the papers, I agree that it is public information and it's great that we can be informed. Most of you do know some of these people who have been arrested, and as bad as it sounds, most of you know they are guilty of what they've been accused of. It's a sad world folks, but we gotta give law enforcement a chance here. We don't want people going off halfcocked and start a war here do we....wake up...it's so trivial to argue over something that you do know is right. As for the APD officers who are guilty of dope, turn them in. It happens, they are not above anyone, so if they are guilty of what yall are accusing them of, pick up the phone, start an investigation...it's not that hard. Go to the DA' office....numerous thing you can do instead of harboring it....and hashing it out here....that's all...MERRY CHRISTMAS PEOPLE...HAPPY NEW YEAR, Hoping it will be a better one for all!

Posted by mike (anonymous) on December 21, 2008 at 10:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lishad....praise god. i have waited to hear words like that for so long now. i have no problem admitting to what i've done in my past...when i was 19 i was arrested for petty theft. i took a few things that didn't belong to me. i didn't NEED to steal. i did it because i was stupid. it was basically for "thrill" as bad as that sounds. but i have also been convicted of 1st degree unlawful possesion of marijuana since then and that too was a felony. i am indeed on probation. i am serving a 15 year sentence with just 5 years on probation. it is only by the grace of god that i wasn't sent back to prison for that. i believe that besides the fact god is on my side, i voluntarily went to an 8 month rehab to prove myself better. if you can help me to find a better job, my email is rileysean8416@yahoo.com....contact me through email and we can talk more seriously. i can explain the entire situation to you.

admin23....omg, do you know me? have you ever met me?then why would you call me lazy? i bust my tail to prove to morons like you that people CAN and WILL change given the right opprotunity. i personally don't care who you know personally unfortunately, i know them as well. however from a different perspective. no they ALL aren't bad but the ones that are, people like you who refuse to believe the truth is why nobody wants to face reality and do something about it people like YOU are the ones in which we would report such matters too. people like YOU who WILL NOT believe in reality. my probation officer set a prime example of law enforcement the day i was first put on probation. do you want to know what his exact words were when i walked into his office? they were...ok he sits in his chair and pulls out a badge and lays it on his desk. "do you know what this is? this is a badge. do you know what this means? it means i can do whatever the f*** i want to do." i will never forget that. until you can face reality...quit trying to argue.

Posted by lishad (anonymous) on December 22, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You got it Mike, check your email. Unlike some, I'm more than willing to put my money where my mouth is! We all make mistakes, you've taken the first FEW steps, in admitting your wrong doing, and a very COMMENDABLE step in admitting yourself to rehab and getting help! I know that was the hardest thing you've ever had to do, and truth be told, probably even harder than prison!

Hope I can help! God Bless and Merry Christmas! May the New Year bring you the start of a new and better life! Good Luck!

Posted by mike (anonymous) on December 22, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

thank you. thank you very much. merry christmas to you as well.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on December 22, 2008 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well,why don't you tell us the names of these officers you smoked dope with?

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on December 22, 2008 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I fail to see what Mike has said or done to warrant such disrespect and presumptuous comments. You call him lazy and tell hm to get a job? I know this man personally, and I can assure you that he isn't lazy, and that he has a job.

I met Mike long after he had already made his mistakes, and during the time that I have known him, I have personally witnessed his struggle to rise above the stupid things he did as a kid and better himself. Unfortunately for Mike, it has been an uphill battle all the way.

The fact is, and always has been, Mike doesn't come from money, so of course he's going to get the full brunt of everything. You can argue with me all that you want about this, but I'm afraid that you'll find that it's a losing argument. I have personally witnessed people who come from "influential" families get away with far more than Mike ever has.

You guys are seriously living in denial if you doubt what he has said about the police force in Andalusia. What reason would he have to lie? He's not coming on here naming names, or trying to get people into trouble. He's just giving you his personal experience with our law enforcement officials. They are praised like conquering heroes, but what is it that they have accomplished? The ones whose families have enough money will pay the excessive fines, most of this will be kept off of their record, and they'll go on about their business. Perhaps they'll be a bit more cautious next time, or maybe they'll give up their "criminal lives" altogether. One thing is for sure, though, the only people who will suffer from this are the ones whose mothers and fathers are unable/unwilling to swoop in with a big bag of cash and make all of these charges go away.

And yes, I am speaking from personal experience. I just had a DUI torn up. Why? Because I've got access to the cash to accomplish such things. If it had been Mike's DUI, chances are he'd be in jail right now. People like him are victimized because of their lack of money/influence/power, and that's just a simple fact. It's ridiculous, and as long as it continues, you will not see any impact whatsoever from these types of busts.

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 22, 2008 at 10:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the corruption is in the sheriff dept here, not the city police.
They overlook things, get by with murder, or trying to commit it, They get by with bullying innocent people. I think they are the ones that should be investigated...not all of them because there are a couple of honest ones, and I do say only a couple...but they do need investigating..

Posted by mike (anonymous) on December 23, 2008 at 2:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LOOKEYHERE
listen, the way i see it, my taxpaying as well as yours and everyone elses for that matter, is what goes to paying the police and other law enforcement officials. is this or is this not correct? now if you hired a man to mow your lawn, and he didn't mow your lawn, would you still pay him? even after having to do HIS job for HIM? i think not. i'm a changed man. what those officers do is their business. we pay them and when it is time, they will be caught. i have too much stress and worry to deal with something of that matter at this point in my life and, truthfully, i would just like to forget it.

EVIL_MEANIE lol. i love you man. my family does have the money to help me out with such matters but WE choose for them to not help out because i brought these situations on myself. not them. i'm a grown man now and it's about that time to act that way. thats why i CHOSE to go to rehab. i CHOSE to quit that way of life. you know. you witnessed it just recently. but truth be told, you are 100% correct. thank you for the support.

BAMADUDE
THANK YOU AS WELL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. MY EMAIL HAS BEEN POSTED ABOVE IF THERE IS ANY BETTER PAYING JOBS THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TELL ME ABOUT PLEASE CONTACT ME. IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. AND MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on December 23, 2008 at 4:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mike, I understand their will always be bad police officers and good police officers. I just think if you post a comment that says you were involved in illegal activity with law enforcement,I think the public should know who they are.

Posted by thevoice (anonymous) on December 23, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes. Let's expose them. I am interested in knowing who they are. I have heard rumors that there are those like that on our force, but I have never had absolute evidence and names. If they are doing that, then they don't need to be on the police force and in the sheriff's department.

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 23, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OH i would LOVE to name names in the sheriff dept , but doing that would be like putting a sign up asking for more harrassment.
Its better to let sleeping dogs lie . I have went to the sheriff, nothing was accomplished " ofcourse" they stick together up there. I guess stepping over his head is always an option . I will salute the one name Teddy up there, he was very helpful and did his best to help, so yes there are good honest people trying to do their jobs. ...and then there are ones willing to bury their heads because they hate paperwork or they are to buddy buddy with their employees.

Posted by hambone (anonymous) on December 23, 2008 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I say either uncover those in the police or deputies or just say nothin and g at all. If you allow it to happen by saying nothing, then you are just as guilty and might as well as not even to bring it up. If those who supposedly went to the sheriff and nothing happened then take it to the next level and expose those crooked in the system and those who are harboring those.

Posted by Mel (anonymous) on December 23, 2008 at 9:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mike, don't spell God... god. Does he not deserve our best? You are where you are by the grace of God. I have no clue who you are, or what you done. As someone said, I also know a local person who recieved a pardon from his felony record. Ask around and you will find out who. My kids were raised in church, but still, one got arrested twice. Both times were minor in consumption.Who's to blame there? Is it me, my family, my church, or even God? I think not. We all know right from wrong. As kids, why do we try to lie our way out of something we've done wrong? Better yet, what tells us it was wrong? Conviction, but from where? GOD! We know as kids right from wrong. Some choose to do what is right by God, our parents, and the law. Yet, others choose to disobey the law. As a result, we are punished for our crimes. Which is also sin. I talked with a guy convicted of multiple murders, in a different county. He stated that God would forgive him for his wrong doings. As the law is, he said he would have to receive his punishment for his crime here on earth. Today, this same man is on death row in Atmore. I will not mention his name here, but as public record it can be found on the death row inmate list. The list can be found on th CCSD web site. I thank God my son was convicted under the juvenile offender status. Now he works out of state making alot more than Shaw or Sitel will ever pay. Yes, he's away from home but he is also away from the "crap" around here. He's drug tested on his job, so I know he's drug free. If he wasn't, he would not have a job. There's alot of help out there. I don't know your status now, but anyone needing addition help there's hope. It can be from a number of additions, not just drug and alcohol. The Crossover Ministries is a great place. Look to God for the answers you're needing. Be it for a job, help paying bills, or even food. Things will get better, just don't be so negative. Merry Christmas and God Bless All.

Posted by covingtoncountycitizen2008 (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 12:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is always funny to me to hear that someone is pointing the finger at the police again. Nothing better to do than to say "I have personally smoked dope with them". Was this ten years ago when you all were in high school or has it been recently, Mike? I am sure your probation officer, the crooked one as you speculated, would like to know that you are out smoking pot. Probably happened since you have been on probation. APD officers are more than likely the ones who have locked you up too. The truth is that you probably have not smoked pot with all of these officers and are running your mouth because you think people will listen.

Truebeliever, its obvious that you know nothing of how the sheriff's dept works. If you did then you would know that the integrity and morals are high at that department. Obviously, you went to the sheriff's office and somebody knew more than you did and that made you mad. Get over it!!

Evil_Meanie, we all know that you haven't got a DUI torn up because of the cash. You must of had nothing else to write, so that sounded like a good story. If you did, who was the judge, court system, and how much of all that cash you have did it cost? Let us all know and I will report it to our law enforcement and maybe you will get first hand experience on what it is like to sleep and eat in the jail. Then maybe you can come back on this site once you get out and tell us how an ant bit you or a mouse burped on you.

Lishad, sounds like you have been in the court system before in Covington County. Were you found guilty of a charge or pled to one but you were probably innocent. I believe the next time I go to Destin, I will stop by your burger stand and see if Mike is still working there.

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Obviously, I did go to the sheriff dept, thinking justice would be done, Sadly I seen the truth about how things really work around there...they did admit they WERE wrong...thats all i got out of them.
I guess there was a little satisfaction in that, but an appology would have been nice. I wasnt looking for a big blowout, just a little im sorry would have went a long way from the right person. ..didnt happen.
So yeah citizen, dont talk til you know the facts.

Posted by covingtoncountycitizen2008 (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Truebeliever, do you apologize to everyone? I doubt it. Good luck with stepping over the sheriff's head as you said in the previous comment. I do not believe you could ever be satisfied with any law enforcement agency. Maybe just maybe their were more important crimes than yours at the time that had to be worked on. Merry Christmas truebeliever, and when you need law enforcement next time, call someone else.

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I do appoligize any time im wrong, and as a matter of fact I have very much respect for law enforcement, most especially the ones that take their jobs seriously. And as for stepping over anyones head, nah, ya know sometimes like i said its better to let sleeping dogs lie and let them live with what they did, in the long run they have to sleep at night knowing they did someone wrong,..Maybe you'll always be blessed enough not to get pulled for some no nonsense reason by some deputy thats had a bad day already.. , Like i said you dont know the story . Merry Christmas to you too.

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Or maybe again you do know the story, and you are trying to justify bad actions.,,hmmmm

Posted by mike (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

covington county citizen...who do you think you are? A NOBODY! yeah my probation officer knows that i have smoked pot while on probation. but since you know it all...none of my felony charges and i do say NONE. came from the APD. watch your mouth. i never said but one thing of my po and that was his first words. i hope you do stop by this so called burger stand or any other one here in andalusia because someone needs to put idiots like you in your place. sounds like you may have at one time been one of these few crooked officers. again watch your mouth or step up. don't hide behind that computer screen trying to call me out. i have busted my tail to prove myself to fools like you for too long now. now as far as evil_meanie....do you know him? no moron. you don't you get on this site trying to down other peoples opinions because you think you are better than them. you have no idea nor will you. when you challenge somebody, at least have to desency and courtesy to know what you are talking about. i don't claim to be some big shot christian and i don't claim to be a scholar either. before you go off and choose to critisize that as well. i suggest that if you want people to think you are as smart as what you obviously want people to think, learn what you are talking about before you open your mouth.

Posted by admin23 (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

covingtoncountycitizen thank you. Thank you for being a positive voice on this blog site for the community. Some tend to think this would be the place to bad mouth/point fingers in the direction of those who have put their lives on the line for us in Covington county each and every day. I personally support all law enforcement agencies in this county. There are bad apples in every bag, but those are always removed to keep the rest from spoiling. So, I'll ask you again, mike, if your concern is for APD's officers smoking pot and partaking in illegal activities with you, a convicted felon on probation, please turn them in. You can do it anonomously, trust me, I know for a fact. Your call will not be traced nor will your number show up on caller id. Contrary to popular belief, your phone number/name really does not show up on tip lines. For a man trying to better himself you would think you would be trying to help others. By helping others maybe you could help these individuals get the help they need to turn their lives around as well. Good luck to you mike, and have a Merry Christmas. I know my family will because we will be safe and protected by the law enforcement officers of this great county we live in.

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The sheer amount of naivete that flows from your mouth, covingtoncountycitizen2008, is staggering. You know nothing about me, or nothing about my DUI, other than my statement that I recently had one torn up. Did I say it was in Covington County? No. Did I even say that I lived in Covington County at the time? No. Please cease from depositing words in my mouth.

Your threats to write "law enforcement" about the DUI are laughable. How pathetic. What business is it of yours?

I only brought up the DUI because it is a prime example at what a little influence, and a little money can do for a legal case. I did not "need something to say." I simple wanted to give a concrete example, so I used my recent personal experience with the court systems in this state. I won. You don't like it? Get over it, pal. I'm not about to post details about a matter that doesn't concern you in any way, shape, form, or fashion. You can doubt me all you want, that's fine, but it doesn't make it any less true.

Do I detect just a hint of jealousy? Or maybe you really are as naive as you sound, and you really feel that I deserved the full brunt of DUI. That's sort of funny, considering that you were not present for the DUI. How do you know that it was even deserved? Did it ever occur to you that cops have a quota to meet, regardless of what county they are in? Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the reason that it was so simple to keep everything off of my record and have it thrown out was because of the arresting officer's stupidity? Of course not, you simply want to pass your judgment. That's fine, but don't make threats to get me thrown in jail. That's ridiculous, and offensive. You're just an individual with an uneducated opinion. Don't take it out on me.

Moving on...

I think that you are making far too much of Mike's claim to have personally smoked pot with Andalusia officers. You think he's just trying to get back at someone? If he was, why didn't he name names, especially since so many have requested that he do so? It seems to me that he's just trying to point out that these officers that you are so quick to label "heroes" aren't exactly the most scrupulous people in the world. Nothing more. You're making a simple example into a much bigger deal than it ever was.

In the future, please edit your comments before you post them, and be sure to remove any personal threats to myself. You've no idea what you're talking about, and it only serves to make you look exceedingly foolish.

Posted by gladtobefromandy (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

covingtoncountycitizen.. You are opening your mouth to something you know NOTHING about. The way you are taking up for a wrong doing PO probably means you are one. If you dont think stepping ABOVE the sheriffs head is out of the question then your crazy! Dont talk to someone thinking your better.. because i can guarantee your not...Mike and True.. Just ignore the ignorance coming out of his mouth.

Posted by gladtobefromandy (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And im not talking about any of the Andy Officers. They ALL do a Awesome job.

Posted by admin23 (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 10:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Did it ever occur to you that cops have a quota to meet, regardless of what county they are in?...FYI...cops have NO quota to meet. In any county..so ignorant idiots on the Star News blog site that think they do...they don't. Also, gladtobefromandy, a "wrong doing PO", I can tell you that the PO's from Covington County are some of the best in the state. Find out who you are talking about before you decide to start talking about these men as well.
It's as if you are upset yourself. Maybe some of you that continue to belittle these officers should come forward. Or is it that the only time you feel like you're man/woman enough to is on here? I bet you would never say half of this at your first of the month meeting with your PO...if you still meet or are you watned now for not reporting? Merry Christmas...

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on December 24, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Are you really as stupid as you act admin23? So cops don't have a quota to meet? You're telling me that a cop getting a certain amount of "busts" in NO WAY effects that cop's career, whatsoever? Wow, I'd really love to buy some of your Kool-Aid, my friend.

The PO's from Covington County are some of the best in the state? Now there's a laugh. I mean seriously, do you honestly believe that? Have you ever lived anywhere else, or are you just on their payroll?

I've got another story for you, regarding our "hero" cops. I believe they might be the best in the state...I'm certain I've read that somewhere...

Anyway, four years ago, I got pulled over with a friend of mine for "speeding." I'm using quotation marks not because I don't feel that I was speeding, but because it was never made quite clear to me exactly WHY I was pulled over. As soon as the Andalusia cop came to the window, he insisted on searching my car. My friend, you see, was drinking a carton of milk, and the cop told us that we were obviously smoking marijuana, and that my friend's decision to drink milk from the carton was indicative of the "munchies."

The cops INSISTED on searching the car..did not ask. (Violation of lawful search rights, if you're keeping up.) He searched the car top to bottom, and then came back to me with a blade of grass in his hand. A blade...of grass. From my front yard. The cop insisted to me that this was, "compressed marijuana." He told us that we were both going to be arrested for possession that night. I protested, trying to tell him that this was simply grass from the yard..yet he refused to even acknowledge what I was saying.

My friend suggested that the officer get a drug dog out there, and then, all of a sudden..he dropped the blade of grass, and left. He never said, "my mistake." He never even said anything. He just left.

So you see...blatant violation of my CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. Unlawful search and seizure..and then a blatant attempt at bullying/intimidation, just because he was angry that I didn't have any pot on me.

I'm sure you'll call me a liar...but go right ahead, I've yet to see anything worthwhile come out of you.

The fact of the matter is, no one is complaining, no one is trying to "get back" for their past mistakes by naming names, a few people are simply just pointing out that the law enforcement officials in this county are nowhere near the "heroes" that a few of you make them out to be. Some of them are fine, I'm sure...however the ones I have encountered were incompetent, foolish, and borderline insane. You can think what you want, I can't change the opinion of a sheep. However, I certainly hope you get one of these "hero cops" the next time you get pulled over. Perhaps you'd be singing a different tune if your rights had been blatantly violated, and you ended up having to pay some ridiculous bond (which is ONLY in Covington County) just to go home for the night.

Have a nice day.

Posted by covingtoncountycitizen2008 (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 12:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mike, I am not one of those crooked officers that you refer to. As a matter of fact I am not in law enforcement and am sorry I was unable to toke one up with you. As for as the threats, I don't believe it was a threat. That's not my game. I do believe in protecting the integrity of the police from people like you and mini me. Sorry, you and evil_meanie from slandering reputations of local law enforcement who everyday have to go to work with a bulletproof vest and a gun. I forgot to add in gladtobefromandy who obviously knows nothing about whats going on. You have to kidding me about quotas. I hope you all really don't think that. I to was pulled over by a police officer about six months ago. He also wanted to search my car and I wasn't even drinking milk. Did I refuse? No, because that's his job to keep potheads and other criminals off the streets. I had no problem with him searching my car because I had nothing to hide. I was polite to him and he was polite to me. That's the way it works.

Evil_Meanie, how could someone be jealous about getting arrested and paying your way out of it. That just shows how ignorant you are. I would be proud of that. You think the bonds are ridiculous in Covington County. I bet you would not think that if the crime was directly related to you and you were the victim in a case. Then you would be complaining about the bond being too low.

Have a good Christmas

Posted by etaylor (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 2:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I just want to put in my two cents. This is a public site and these conversations can be read by anyone, so let's keep it nice.

We all live in America where we enjoy the rights to freedom of speech and freedom of the press - this does not give us the right to do whatever we please. Laws are in place for a reason. You do the crime, you do the time - judged guilty or not guilty by a jury of your peers if it goes to court.

I would suggest if you wish to carry on a conversation with another registered user, you do so by contacting them via their profile and send them a private message.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 5:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

etaylor, uh I thought this was a public forum,if everyone that posted a comment on here agreed,well then we would truly have a problem.

Posted by Ineedtobeheard (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Everyone, please have a safe and MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Posted by gladtobefromandy (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

admin.. i know exactly who im talking about.. and i have NO problem standing up to anyone.

Evil_Meanie.. Its crazy these cops around here can do such stuff to people and leave.. This happened to be about a month ago.. I was yelled at for not getting out of this cops way.. tailgating to the point i couldn't see his headlights (was not running lights or sirens).. then yelled in my face! All i wanted was a Im sorry.. but thats impossible here. Went to the CCSO and they said they'd call.. No call.. So yeah admin.. im a little upset!

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, Mini-Me, huh? That's nice.

You know, when someone has to stoop to personal insults, it very much shows that they are rapidly running out of ammunition.

Did you not see my explanation of using the word quota? As I said before, I never said that cops have an official quota like a salesperson would have. However, if you honestly believe that a cop who issues several citations a month, gets a DUI, and a drug bust in no way gets a career boost, then I really have to wonder what planet you're living on.

I enjoyed your story about being searched, mainly because you said that you gave the cop permission, and he was polite to you, as you were polite to him. That's the way it works, right? Yeah, well I guess you missed the part where I said that they don't always ask for permission, sometimes they insist, using someone drinking milk as some lame excuse for probable cause. If the cop had seen marijuana, smelled marijuana, or even seen paraphernalia, then that would have been probable cause to search without permission. However, someone drinking milk in the passenger seat is no way, shape, form, or fashion an example of "probable cause."

You did, in fact, make a threat. I appreciate the fact that you wish to deny it, but this was your exact sentence: "Let us all know and I will report it to our law enforcement and maybe you will get first hand experience on what it is like to sleep and eat in the jail." How does that not qualify as a threat, you're basically saying that you're going to get me thrown in jail. And why? Because I had a DUI thrown out? That seems to truly offend you, and now you're trying to play it off by saying that you'd be proud? I am proud, and I was never implying that me getting a DUI thrown out was an example of poor policemanship. I believe that I was stating that my DUI being thrown out was an example of how the ability to spend money in the right places could easily do away with things that would otherwise ruin the lives of others. I'm sorry that went over your head, I'll try to explain myself more precisely next time.

As far as slander goes, it's not slander if it's true. I'm sorry if you have a hard time believing anyone, but that's not really my problem. If I wanted to slander someone, I would specifically name names and embellish stories to an unbelievable extent. I have done none of that, and neither has Mike. Please keep up with the conversation.

As far as the bonds go...um, I think once again, you've missed my point. Why is it that someone can get arrested in Shelby County and have to pay a $1500 bond to get out of jail, but if they get arrested for the SAME CRIME in Covington County, then the bond may very well be in excess of a million dollars..or at least close to it. You think that's fair? If you believe that, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that I'm willing to sell you...

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Deputy that pulled you over gladtobefromandy,COULD have been written a ticket for tailgating by the Andalusia Police that were called out there by you, the citizen, since he was tailgating, wasnt running lights, wasnt running a siren, was driving recklessly, and higher officials than him at the SO amitted he was in the wrong, YES he needs to appologize!..simply put!..he could have caused a wreck...what was he on his way to??..a donut break??..hmmm...now covingtoncountycitizen, that you do know what happened since it had to be aired ...it could even be taken to court im sure and he could lose his job, who knows unless he does appoligize it may not be over yet

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And pulled over not by blue light, but by pointing and yelling side by side at a redlight..still no lights or siren involved...very very professional.

Posted by admin23 (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 5:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truebeliever...mike...evil_meanie, you all are such fine examples of upstanding citizens here in the Covington County area. I'm sure you all could do a much better job protecting our county than the officers, judges, and prosecutors. So, since you all believe that you know more about the law than any others here and believe that you know more about "quotas", and my personal favorite the old trusty, donut break, so I mean it looks like you know where to go to have an oppurtunity to relax for five minutes on your twelve hour shift, so..since y'all have it all figured out why not apply for a job? I hear the SO, Florala, Opp, and APD are all hiring and with people like you who know it all already, why not apply. I mean from what you all have said here you know about how it should be done so do it...go to work. Oh...wait sorry mike looks like you're out. No convicted felons need apply but the rest of you please apply I'd love to watch you try their jobs, it would be my pleasure to see you all attempt to do it better.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah you probably right admin23 about doing there job any better. I don't think I could eat that many donuts in 12 hours,Haha just kidding,like I said before there is good and bad in every line of work.

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And finally, you run out of ammunition and throw out your blatant insults, and the trusty, "let's see you do it." I have no interest in being a police officer. I would rather enter a better paying career, and not risk being shot. Call me a coward if you want, but it's my right to be one, just as it is my right to criticize those who are in charge of "protecting" me. As long as Constitutional rights are violated on a daily basis, and as long as ridiculous bonds are issued by unscrupulous public officials, I will continue to mount my criticisms.

I'd wager that, given your crazy desire to defend such rubbish, you are either a cop yourself, or more likely, the child of a cop. That's fine, I understand that you must defend the family business or whatever, but don't pretend that every arrest made in Covington County is entirely ethical when it isn't, don't act like rights are not violated on a daily basis when they are, and don't treat people likes heroes when they are sometimes just as guilty as the people they bring in. You're basically guilty of the "ostrich syndrome," sticking your head in the sand and ignoring things that you don't wish to see. That's unfortunate, especially if you are a registered voter. However, many people, such as yourself, have become complacent, figuring that as long as these things do not effect them, they are fine. That is a very selfish attitude to take, and I hope, for your sake, that you never have to deal with some of the things that Mike has had to. As I said before, you'd probably be singing a different tune.

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have no intrest in becoming a police officer, nor am i trained, but being a very close relative of a very well trained law officer, I DO know some of the alabama state laws. SO yes i do know what im talking about, and when i went to the SO to report what happened,They knew I was the one in the right. It wasnt to much to ask for any apology, If that had been me in the wrong it wouldnt have been an apology they would have been seeking but about $200.00 in fines..wrong is wrong no matter who is doing it. All Im saying is, practice what you preach no matter WHO YOU ARE IN THIS TOWN.

Posted by truebeliever (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My last post tho, I'm sick of talking to someone so closed minded ( Covington cc and Admin...you are both good examples of seeing what you want to see, believing what you only want to believe, caring about only yourselves..keep up that attitude its showing andalusia's true colors once again:)

Posted by etaylor (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@ lookeyhere It is a public forum. I'm simply saying that opinions should be kept clean. You wouldn't want your comments to disappear because they were found offensive, would you?

I think it's great that everyone doesn't agree. Otherwise, we wouldn't have something to discuss, would we? :) Debating is something we should never take for granted, but we should always keep a cool head when doing it.

Posted by admin23 (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll never run out of ammunition. And yes, if you want to insult law enforcement and be childish enough to start name calling, go for it. But before you do be very careful of who's names you start calling and making yourself look like a fool, well that's too late, you already look like one. Each of you. My head is not in the sand nor do I believe there is not good cops/bad cops, there are cases of police brutality, corruption, and violation of search and seizure laws. However, I do believe that our law enforcement officers are well trained, taught, and have the ability to perform their jobs. I have no question about that. It is sad to me that some of you do question it and even tell stories of where you feel you were violated. And the milk carton story is quite the funny. It's almost as good as "these aren't my pants". I bet we'll get to hear that one soon as well. Good luck to you all and be sure to remember who's looking out for you. BTW, the bonds are set higher in Covington County because we have judges who want better for our community than drug dealers and child sex abusers. So, if you've got a problem with those being behind bars instead of out on in public you must be one of them yourself. AND, no I'm no cop's child nor am I one myself. Just a concerned citizen who is tired of reading the "hater" blogs about this city/county.

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do you keep coming back and defending them, though? I mean really, you say that I look childish by name calling? Honestly, do you even read what I say, because I don't believe I've called anyone any names. I've said that some of you have very foolish, uneducated opinions, and it's quite clear that you do. If you think that there is no corruption in Covington County, and that the cops are doing such an outstanding job, then tell me why is it that so many people are cooking meth around here, and it has yet to be properly controlled? Why is it that I can point out houses back around where my parents live that have blatantly been cooking meth for as long as I can remember? It's utterly ridiculous, and quite sad.

I'm not familiar with this, "these aren't my pants," story that you speak of, but I'm sorry to hear that you either: a)don't believe me, or b) feel that someone drinking out of a milk carton is probable cause for a vehicle search. However, the milk carton isn't really my point, my point was that the cop called a single blade of grass, "compressed marijuana." Now, I don't know if you are familiar with what "compressed" means, but I suggest you look it up to see how utterly ridiculous that "well-trained" officer's statement was. But hey, that's cool, keep sticking your head in the sand, plugging your ears, and telling yourself that I'm being "childish" by pointing out ridiculous things.

Bonds are high enough in most counties as it is, without being excessive. There's a difference between a fair bond, and an excessive one, and to say that the bonds in this county aren't excessive is indicative that you clearly have no sense of justice or fairness. I'm sorry, but sentences for those who are CONVICTED can be as harsh as they need to be, depending on the crime, but putting someone in jail, when they haven't stood trial, and setting a bond that they can't possible afford? That's utter rubbish, and I think you'd feel the same if you ever get pulled over by a "well trained" officer who decides to throw you in jail for the night. It's easy to laugh at those who are less fortunate than you, but I can assure you that you definitely wouldn't like being on the other end of the stick, my friend.

Thanks for implying that I'm a child molester, by the way, that's a fine demonstration of your intelligence.

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on December 25, 2008 at 10:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Furthermore, admin23, I've taken a look back at some of your posts, and how do you honestly feel that I'm the one who looks foolish and childish? You blatantly attacked Mike, telling him to get a job, implying that he was common scum, and for what? Saying that the bonds were too high, and that not all of the cops on the force are so great? You are the one who has, from the very start, jumped on anyone that you disagree with, calling them anything that you can. You even implied that I was either a drug dealer or a child molester, when I've said nothing to indicate that I am either one of those things. I've tried to make my posts clear, and to the point, and obviously that point has continued to sail over your head time and time again.

You are the one who has called names, and been proven wrong. (Mike has a job, isn't wanted, and I'm certainly not a drug dealer or sex offender.) You've stood up for something blindly, refusing to address hard evidence that shows the flaw in your arguments, and you just keep on coming. The more I say, the more you totally ignore it, and make totally unrelated points, and truly groundless assumptions. Like I said, I can only hope and pray that someone like you is not a registered voter. After seeing some of your logic, I shudder to think what types of things you would vote in favor of.

But really, I'm sure that you will continue to ignore my points, and continue to suggest that I am some type of criminal scum because I disagree with the practices of some of our law enforcement officials. That's a real shame, I wasn't aware that we were living in Nazi Germany. Oh wait..that's right....we're not.

Posted by covingtoncountycitizen2008 (anonymous) on December 26, 2008 at 1:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Evil_Meanie, are you just completely clueless? You say the meth problem is not under control. I just did a little research and statistics are showing a rapid decline in meth. It also seems to me that our local police have done a great job in reaching the goal of reducing meth activities. You say your neighbors have been cooking meth for a long time now. How many times have you reported that? Your response should be high since you can point out the houses. It sounds to me that if you don't have first hand experience of them cooking meth, then they are being falsely accused of participating in something illegal. That doesn't seem right. I am sure they are not cooking in their front yard where everyone can see, so what makes you the expert to know what the actions of the individuals that live in those places are doing? You basically say that we are uneducated so I would really like to know what your investigative techniques were in coming to this conclusion. And, if they end up not being involved in meth, will you go and apologize to them?

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on December 26, 2008 at 2:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh boy, back for more?

First of all, the meth problem is under control? The police have done an outstanding job? Really? Could you please tell me why, then, it is so exceedingly easy to get meth in Andalusia? Could you please tell me why it is so very common to see so many people, obviously hooked on the stuff, out in public on a daily basis? That's hardly what I would call, "under control."

Furthermore, I never said my "neighbors" were cooking meth. Once again, throwing words into my mouth to make yourself look better. I said that many houses around where my PARENTS live were obviously heavily involved in meth activity. Did I say where my parents live? A house can be "around" a place, and hardly be something that you could call a neighbor. My family lives on the outskirts of town, there are hardly any houses around them at all.

Did I say that people were out in their front yard cooking meth? No, absolutely not. That would be a ridiculous statement. But come on, are you telling me that you can't tell when obvious drug activity is going on at a particular house? I shouldn't have to explain these things to you, they should be obvious. You are simply grasping to trivial things, and attempting to pick them apart. I've got a 3000 character limit here, and I've no desire to waste them explaining to you how to tell if someone is cooking crystal meth in their house/shack.

As far as how often it's been reported? I know for a fact that my father has called the police on at least one of these homes, and nothing was done whatsoever. It's not my job to report it, I don't live in the area, and I don't know the addresses. I find it rather amusing how I point out that there's a huge meth problem in the town, you say, "oh it's being fixed," and then turn things around to try and make it MY responsibility to fix it? Your logic is astounding. I couldn't make someone like you up.

One does not have to have first hand experience in cooking meth to know what it's all about. All one has to do is use this interesting little tool called the "internet" to find out. It's unfortunate that you seem to use this useful tool to bash anyone who dares question your precious law enforcement officials. Because, you know, they are ALWAYS in the right, after all, and people like me, who only want the law to be upheld in a fair manner, and not have people look the other way when it comes to the problems with their children, and sometimes their own officers. Is that too much to ask for? Using your logic, it seems like it is.

Please, again, take your insults and your foolishness elsewhere. Like admin23, you do nothing but ignore 90% of what I say, make groundless assumptions, place words in my mouth, and make some foolish, childish attempt to personally attack me. If it weren't so much fun picking you apart, I'd find this whole endeavor to be sad.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on December 26, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Evil_Meanie I agree with you on some things. I would also like to say that the meth problem in Covington county is nowhere near as bad as it was 10 years ago. I used to stop at this store in Opp every morning 10 years ago, to get a cup of coffee. Keep in mind this was early in the morning, it was still dark. I seen people coming in that store wearing sunglasses, to hide their eyes,I guess they so paranoid. Some would come in there with sores all over their face and arms,acting all jittery. I don't see as much of that as I used to. I know its still around, but I do think law enforcement put a dent in it.

Posted by covingtoncountycitizen2008 (anonymous) on December 26, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Evil_Meanie, you like using big words to cover up the fact tht you still have no clue on what you are talking about and back tracking on some of the things you said. You said you know that those people are involved in meth activity. Then how do you know? You say your father roported this but nothing was done. It could be two things here. Either the investigation continues or your father was absolutely wrong just like you on what actually was going on. You said you could point the houses out and your excuses are that you don't know the addresses. Hmm, I am uneducated like you say but I would know to look on the mailbox. Maybe even a road number and count the number of houses. I guess common sense would be out of the question but for us uneducated ones, its life. I will sum up this whole story so we can put an end to all of this. You had a bad experience with one police and now every police is bad. I have met alot of people like you that thinks they are above the law and are too good to be pulled over. I was mistreated and my constitutional rights were violated. That is a bunch of crap. When in turn you were probably not a good citizen by obeying the laws set forth wherever the so called DUI that was supposedly thrown out because of the ignorance of the officer. I am sure that officer locked you up for no reason. And finally, someone who tries to talk about cash they have to get things done usually are the ones that have no money, stay in trouble, and live off their parents. Evil_Meanie, I hope that you have a nice day and please don't spend too much of that large sum of cash that you talk about in one place.

Posted by gladtobefromandy (anonymous) on December 26, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cov citizen.. why are you attacking evil when hes just saying theres a problem with drugs? I know a house that there IS plenty of drug activity and it HAS been reported.. many times. But nothing has been done. And I do know that it is going on. I dont have to walk inside and see it. Cars coming and going different times of night.. staying 5 min and leaving. It doesnt take brains to realize it. You and Admin are like brick walls. We say something and it goes in one ear and out the other. You dont hear anything any of us are saying.. Ya'll just wanna argue with someone. Try Arguing with each other.. that'd be something to see.

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on December 26, 2008 at 6:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He's attacking me because that's pretty much his only defense. I clearly said that I don't live in that area anymore, and I fail to see where I have ever claimed to have a photographic memory. He insists that I am back-tracking on my statements, yet I have neglected to do that as well. He, on the other hand, blatantly ignores every valid point that I make. He insists on picking out things that I mentioned, usually in passing, and picking them apart, in a failed attempt to try and make me look stupid.

I had a bad experience with one officer, and now they are all bad? I'm glad that you know the inner workings of my mind, and I'm sure that you've got a psychology degree to back up your assessment, right? Of course not, you will simply continue to pass your judgments, flawed as they may be, as the 100% gospel of the land, and that's fine.

You act like I have come on here and talked about how rich and powerful I am incessantly. No, I never said I was rich. I said that I had access to the type of cash required to take care of such matters as a DUI. I didn't pay off anyone, I paid a court cost fee, and I paid a one time fee to a Court Referral Officer, and everything was kept off of my record. I had to attend no classes, no CRO, no probation, no nothing. The one time fees that I had to pay were rather steep, but it definitely beats having a DUI on your record, especially one that was as questionable as mine was. (I will spare the details, because we all know that I've got nothing better to do than make up blatant stories in an attempt to attack the Covington County Law Enforcement officials. Of course, we'll ignore the fact that my DUI wasn't even in Covington County, or anywhere around the Covington County area, because that's how we like to play. Ignore things that might be damaging to your blatant insults.)

You are, ccc08, without a doubt one of the most entertaining people I have ever engaged in all of my years of internet use. I have never seen someone so capable of totally ignoring valid points, and blatantly putting words in someone's mouth. I can't believe that you do this on this type of blog, where other readers can clearly view my posts and see that you are blatantly misrepresenting my words.

Oh, and thanks for the complaint about using, "big words." I'd love an example of how many of these "big words" I'm actually using, because I fail to see any that are extraordinarily uncommon.

Once again, ccc08, it's been fun for me. You are a prime example of a selfish person who blatantly ignores undeniable facts, condemning all that you see without question. As I've said numerous times, I hope that you never have to deal with an unscrupulous officer, or a ridiculously high bond, because if you speak like this to everyone you encounter, there's probably going to be a line at the jail of people wanting to point and laugh at you.

Have a nice day, old buddy.

Posted by harts0002 (anonymous) on December 29, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It seems to me that some of you really need to read this and think alot about some of your comments.

Well, Mr. Citizen, it seems you've figured me out.

I seem to fit neatly into the category where you've placed me.
I'm stereotyped, standardized, characterized, classified, grouped, and always typical.

Unfortunately, the reverse is true, I can never figure you out.
From birth you teach your children that I'm the bogeyman,
then you're shocked when they identify with my traditional enemy... the criminal!

You accuse me of coddling criminals... until I catch your kids doing wrong.
You may take an hour for lunch and several coffee breaks each day,
but point me out as a loafer for having one cup.

You pride yourself on your manners,
but think nothing of disrupting my meals with your troubles.

You raise hell with the guy who cuts you off in traffic,
but let me catch you doing the same thing and I'm picking on you.

You know all the traffic laws...
but you've never gotten a single ticket you deserve.

You shout "foul" if you observe me driving fast to a call,
but raise the roof if I take more than ten seconds to respond to your complaint.

You call it part of my job if someone strikes me,
but call it police brutality if I strike back.

You wouldn't think of telling your dentist how to pull a tooth or your doctor how to take out an appendix,
yet you are always willing to give me pointers on the law.

You talk to me in a manner that would get you a bloody nose from anyone else,
but expect me to take it without batting an eye.

You yell something's got to be done to fight crime,
but you can't be bothered to get involved.

You have no use for me at all, but of course it's OK if I change a flat for your wife, deliver your child in the back of the patrol car, or perhaps save your son's life with mouth to mouth breathing, or work many hours overtime looking for your lost daughter.

So, Mr. Citizen, you can stand there on your soapbox and rant and rave about the way I do my work, calling me every name in the book,
but never stop to think that your property, family, or maybe even your life depends
on me or one of my buddies.

Yes, Mr. Citizen, it's me... the lousy cop!

The author of this article was Trooper Mitchell Brown of the Virginia State Police, USA. He was killed in the line of duty two months after writing the article.

Posted by mrskuntry2009 (anonymous) on December 29, 2008 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here is my personal opinion. It is not to insult any one person. However, in my experience I will say this. Almost ALL convicted felons or any one person that has been to jail, all of the sudden finds God. Isn't that funny? For some it may take that, not to find God seeing that he was always there, but to open their eyes and know that they were never alone in anything. Personally, I don't care how they do that, as long as they do. I am not perfect, nor is no other. I think there is a lot of judging of everyone instead of acceptance. There may be corrupt and hipocritical law enforcement.. isn't everyone at some point? Here is a question out of my personal email... Pick your president.. A: A man that beats his wife, drinks himself to oblivion, never follows through with anything he promises, and only cares about himself. B: A man that doesnt beat his wife, he just doesnt give her the time of day, doesnt do anything with his children but give them his last name, follows through with maybe one of his promises, and drinks occasionally. Or C: A man that loves his wife as she deserves like no other, loves and gives all the attention a child needs and more, does not drink, and follows through with all of the promises he makes to anyone. Most of us would chose C, Well, Congrats.. You just picked ADOLPH HITLER to run the US. So, my point is.. most of the time when they are perfect... it is not good. So, everyone does things that someone else doesnt think is right.. well welcome to humanity. As for being attacked the rest of your life for being a convicted felon.. maybe so... that also goes for all of the african-american, idians, and mexicans, for they think we owe them something for the past. Personally I think that is an easy way out, something to blame on someone else for not getting what you want. My husband is a long-haul truck driver and we are barley making it.. we have two small children, and I am left at home without my only love for 2-3 weeks at a time for him to try and support us, now I ask you... Who do I blame for that? He has no record and has always been a good person. Felon or not, he will help anyone... what has he done wrong not to be able to stay home and make it? Because, wal-mart, sitel, and MFG would not hire him either... with no record... So, why exactly not? I think with everyone jumping to judge each other, maybe someone else is quick to judge these companies for not hiring him based upon "Oh I am a convited felon and NOBODY will give a good man trying to do right a good paying job", well neither will they for a good man that has a family to support that hasn't done anything wrong in his life. I pray that everyone finds peace and love, because without it, we are all lost. Instead of judging, lets try accepting people for who they are... not anything else. A friend is a friend and you can never have too many. Thank you all.

Posted by Evil_Meanie (anonymous) on January 5, 2009 at 6:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You're welcome.