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The way it was

Historical society recalls Depression

Published Saturday, January 31, 2009

Mary Frances Ward Taylor and Marie Pruitt Pierce enjoy biscuits and Hoover gravy at a table recently donated to the CHS for the East Three Notch Museum from the Sara Caton Tollison estate. The table belonged to Mrs. Tollison’s husband’s family and was built about 1908.

Photo by Michele Gerlach

Mary Frances Ward Taylor and Marie Pruitt Pierce enjoy biscuits and Hoover gravy at a table recently donated to the CHS for the East Three Notch Museum from the Sara Caton Tollison estate. The table belonged to Mrs. Tollison’s husband’s family and was built about 1908.

When Mary Frances Ward Taylor was a third-grader, there was a Depression going on, and local teachers were being paid with scrip, IOU’s of sorts.

At a PTA meeting, the teacher approached Ward’s mother and told her that the boarding house where she lived wouldn’t accept scrip. As a result, the teacher moved in with Taylor’s family.

“Momma took scrip in exchange for board,” she recalled at the Covington County Historical Society meeting Thursday night. “Everybody who had scrip was paid back. And that’s how I got to go to the World’s Fair in Chicago.”

Mrs. Taylor’s mother saved the scrip, and when she was able to cash it in, took a small group to the 1934 Chicago World’s Fair.

Mrs. Taylor explained that Alatex and Andala kept the town going after the stock market crash of 1929.

“Mr. Scherff (who was the mayor and owned the mills) gave them something called scrip with a promise to pay them when he could get cash,” she recalled. “Some places would accept it for groceries.”

Taylor and others shared local stories of the Depression as part of the group’s program, “Remembrances of The Great Depression,” presented by Sue Bass Wilson.

J.H. Johnson was superintendent of local schools during the Depression. Wilson said Morgan Simmons shared a story with her about Johnson, who, on his wedding anniversary, stopped at the City Drug Store and bought a box of chocolates for his wife on his way home for lunch.

That evening, he asked his wife for a chocolate after supper. Mrs. Johnson refused — she had returned the candy and exchanged it for a bottle of Phillips’ Milk of Magnesia “because we needed it more than candy.”

Margaret Prestwood recalled that “all the banks in south Alabama closed except Dozier,” although some only closed for a short period of time.

She also said there was no money to pay attorneys, like her late husband.

“My husband had a client who was paying him in vegetables,” she said. “When he was loading them in the back of the car, the judge came along and asked for some of them because he didn’t have anything, either.”

In 1936, she recalled, some children picked up pecans on the way to school and ate them for lunch. Eventually, Mayor Scherff contributed money to the school to ensure that all students had lunch each day.

A piece of Depression glass on display prompted the recollection that an oatmeal company purchased large lots of the glassware before the Great Depression. They placed the glass pieces in oatmeal boxes to boost sales of their oatmeal. Today, Depression glass is a pricy collectible.

Others said that Covington County escaped the worst of the Depression. Wiley Ward, who was born in 1934 and grew up on a farm in Covington County, said even though times were hard, most area residents were able to grow food.

“The people in the cities were the ones who were really hurting,” he said.

As part of the program, refreshments included biscuits and Hoover gravy, so called because Herbert Hoover was the U.S. president when the Depression began. The gravy often was made with drippings from bacon or ham and water because milk wasn’t available.

‘Hoover Gravy’ Recipe

Ingredients:

2 tablespoons bacon grease (or other drippings)

2 tablespoons flour

1 teaspoon sugar

1/2 teaspoon salt

1/4 teaspoon pepper (scant)

1/2 cup tap water

1/2 cup milk

Directions:

Get out a 1 quart sauce pan. In it, melt the bacon grease. Use a fork or whisk to stir in the flour. Stir until the flour is dissolved completely in the fat. Add the sugar, salt, and a scant 1/4 teaspoon pepper. Gradually whisk in the tap water, and then the milk. Cook and stir until thickened and bubbly. Boil for a full minute, and then serve hot.




Comments

Posted by pingbalata (anonymous) on January 31, 2009 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This story reminds me of the stories my Momma used to tell us kids about her growing up in the depression. She said they had a bone that they made soup off of for over 2 years...till her Momma loaned it to her sister and she cooked it in turnips and riuned it.

Posted by leisa1962 (anonymous) on January 31, 2009 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I love to read these stories! Mother and grandmother told me similar stories in the past. One common thread that I notice is that people were helping each other rather than relying on the government to bail them out. While things are tough, I don't think my generation has what it takes to survive anything similar to what these folks experienced. I truly admire these folks and their ability to handle tough times.

Posted by doodad (anonymous) on February 3, 2009 at 12:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My great grandmother ate chicken feet. She called them "scratchers." I think when we finally enter our generation's depression, I will starve to death. Or eat dirt or Ramen noodles.

Posted by leisa1962 (anonymous) on February 3, 2009 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Doodad, don't forget we have microwave mac n cheese!

Posted by jamthree (anonymous) on February 3, 2009 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

there is only one thing to say.....country folks can survive!

Posted by rodg (anonymous) on February 4, 2009 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I felt the depression as I was growing up in the late 40's and early 50's. I ate Hoover gravy every meal some weeks .Other weeks we had lima beans ,Turnips, Collards,potatoes,cornbread .We had chicken,fish , at least onced a week,but they had to work for it .
Once the Ice Truck came by and ran over a chicken in the yard and we had ice tea and chicken in the middle of the week and" that was a treat ! "Mama would not let any thing go to waste .
We used kerosene lamps at night,Our well went dry ,had to carry water from the spring ,washed clothes down at the Spring,& saw my first loaf of light bread that year .
There was plenty of Family time in those years .I would sit in the window , mama would tell me old stories while she cooked on a wood stove ,talk to Daddy while he brought in the stove wood ,Go the the back room while my sister got her home work by a lamp light .Listen to the an old battery radio and enjoyed Amos & Andy at night .
I could go on and on of the times we did not have any money to do any thing with ,one thing for sure when times stood still my family had time to Worship God .
I don't wish to go back to the old days ,I do wish for the new coming years that our families would be closed to the Lord and feel the peace we felt back then .

Posted by ItsAboutTime (anonymous) on February 4, 2009 at 6:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I love history and I am sorry I missed this meeting.

On another note, people today have no idea how good they have it. I do not believe today's generation could take care of themselves if another Depression of this magitude came to pass. Let's hope and pray it doesn't get that bad again.

To leisa1962....no job, no money, no mac-n-cheese ;)

Be thankful for what you have and if you have a job...better keep it!

Posted by leisa1962 (anonymous) on February 4, 2009 at 10:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ItsAboutTime, you're right, no job, no money, no mac n' cheese! I am part of today's generation, and I agree that I do not think that many of us could not take care of ourselves. However, some of us have learned the valuable lessons of history and are attempting not to repeat past mistakes. I was raised by folks who lived through the depression and I am thankful for their wisdom and faith legacy.

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