Posted by Jim (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 7:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmmmm, I wonder who squealed.

Posted by sadshoper (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What I don't quite understand is, (we'll there is a lot I don't understand,) but, 1.)The fact that the two individuals that are 18 years old could go join the military, go to a foreign country, get shot at or killed for this country, but they can't drink a beer! Hummmm..... What is wrong with this picture? We have some screwed up laws in the country. I know.....I Know..... before I get lambasted..... they were breaking the law.....so, bla...bla...bla...2.) I have seen, Articles In this paper, about individuals who were arrested for, Assault, Attempted Murder, and a whole lot of much more serious crimes have a lesser bond than $69,000. ?????????????? Where do they come up with this. Please can someone explain this?

Posted by Ineedtobeheard (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Doesn't matter who squealed...they should know by now that they will get busted if they are having illegal activities going on. It's just plain ridiculous that these adults are continuing to allow these parties in their homes knowing full well that there is the chance they will get busted, and especially now. It's no secret that law enforcement is on high alert now, watching these folks, so they really need to stop these activities. If the highschoolers want to party, and they know full well they can't purchase alcohol, then they don't need it...you can have a party with music and sodas, and still have a great time with your friends, and then you don't have to worry bout any such thing as spending jail time, getting perhaps your parents arrested, losing your privileges, there's just so much that they aren't considering here, and I'm no longer a teenager, but looking back, I never partied when I was in high school...I believed that my parents would bust my ass, and trust me, they would have....I was no angel, but the drug scene/alcohol scene was not part of my upbringing, nor was it something that I wanted to participate in. So, for the graduates/undergraduates/parents of same, take a moment to think of the consequences all involved will face, and weigh it with just having a plain ole' old fashioned good time, with music and grilling, yeah, kinda like the old days...gathering with your friends and truly it's not hard to have a good time without the effects of alcohol or drugs. I know I'll get hate mail...but hey, I don't really care. I'm just speaking from my heart. Good luck to all the seniors and to your futures.

Posted by kalqulator (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sadshoper, first of all no one forces anyone into the military anymore. In case you haven't noticed, we have an all volunteer army. Your argument that if you're 18 you can't drink booze but you can get killed serving in the military is an apples to oranges analogy. Do you realize what the statistics show about underage drinking and the chances of getting killed in an automobile accident? Do you realize what a lot of booze does to adult thinking, let alone that of an 18 year old? Do you realize the just how young 18 really is? Do you really want to open the door to that many more immature, drunk people on the roads? Think about that as you contemplate all the things that you don't quite understand.

Posted by sadshoper (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

kalqulator...You completly missed my point. So... You win!

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There would never be a question as to teen drinking once one pulls a dead teen out of a car. Let us see someone argue that point. IS IT WORTH IT? Parents think real, do you want to be awakened by a State Troper in the early morning telling you that your child was just killed in a car wreck only to find out that alcohol played a role? What is your childs life worth, "Hey my parents are cool they let me drink?" and get the knock at the door, or "Hey my parents are cool they taught me responsabilty", and see them day to day growing older. Geeeez people Teach the kids right, Drinking is NOT a RIGHT of PASSAGE! It is a responsabilty one must respect. Not only their lives are at stake, But the innocent lives as well!

IN MEMORY OF KIRSTIN DEAN

GOOD JOB ABC! LOCK UMM UP! And their parents too!

Posted by nurse (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kirsten Dean was not in consumption of alcohol at the time of her death. However, the driver that hit the vehicle she was was in was drunk. I remember the night she was involved in the accident like it was yesterday. Losing Kirsten was a terrible tragedy...all because of irresponsibility and an alcoholic who was allowed to roam the streets and rack up numerous other DUIs after he killed her.

Posted by justice (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well they were at a house not on the roads thank goodness, but i seen a underage get a dui and the judge and procecuter trying to let him off with just court cost,something is wrong .he went to jail, no bond got out the next day.someone at a house gets "69,000."

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So if you got a guy who just gets back from Iraq or Afghanistan, who has both legs BLOWED OFF, and in a wheel chair, 20 years old and wants to drink a few beers.Whats wrong with that? I say NOTHING. I think the legal drinking age should be lowered to 18,it just makes sense.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I refuse to argue about the legal age of drinking, The Bottom Line is , AGE 21. Just because someone disagrees with the law does not mean it is OK to break the Law. If I was able to have everyone under the age of 21 see the REAL LIFE tragedy of drinking and either Driving or just over drinking what the remains of the person or persons look like. I have seen it way to many times in my lifetime. Drinking is a RESPONSABILTY! NOT a RIGHT! at any age. However these teens were being what seems like several adults, and with their approval. Now thats just plain wrong!

To NURSE, Yes I know the FACTS of that night, Very well, My point was simply, alcohol played a role. There are many things that happened that night that were just wrong! But Kirstin was taken way too soon from us, She had so very much to offer, as will many of these teens that made it this time with only an arrest. No Funerals to go to this week. Thanks to the hard work of the ABC.

An Angel got her wings that night! We Miss you Kirstin!

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the ABC is one of those agencies that tax payers could do without.It seems like a total waste of money. I mean come on,chasing teeny boppers around on the weekends. Oh yeah before anybody says anything I respect law enforcement,I don't have anybody in my family that has ever been arrested by the ABC. So its nothing personal.

Posted by kalqulator (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

According to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration:

# Motor vehicle crashes remain the number one cause of death among youth ages 15-20. There were 7,460 youth motor vehicle deaths in 2005. (This includes both drivers and passengers.)

# Twenty-eight percent (28%) of 15- to 20-year-old drivers who were killed in motor vehicle crashes in 2005 had been drinking.

# For young drivers (15-20 years old), alcohol involvement is higher among males than among females. In 2005, 24% of the young male drivers involved in fatal crashes had been drinking at the time of the crash, compared with 12% of the young female drivers involved in fatal crashes.

Persons ages 16-20 years old had the highest fatality and injury rates per 100,000 population.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lookeyhere, well Guess they are alive, wonder if that would have been the case had some of them drove off? Sad, that you think these men were just out chasing teeny Boopers around, to me and to many others and maybe even them in a few years will consider the ABC guys saved maybe a few lives, who knows, you or your family could have been out riding around when one thought it was cool to drink than drive. Thank God the ABC guys were there to save maybe even your life. Again Thank you to all LEO's for stopping the future from taking on another Funeral! No one will ever know.... and thats a GOOD thing!

Posted by Mom3 (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 2:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Its good that these people not just kids are getting busted. Its their choice to drink and all of us innocent dont need to be in harms way for some irresponsible choices of those who need drinks or booze to have a good time. Why should anyone be victims of bad choices. maybe if the parents would crack down on their kids the ABC wouldnt have to babysit them for you. Yeah kids sneak off and parents cant keep a 24/7 eye on them but come on the signs of controled substances in a kid are there. Wake up and smell the coffee and stop being babies when your babies or yourselves get caught. Ya wanna play you pay! you do the crime you do the time!

Posted by chats (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is so sad that we have no places for our children to go on the weekends in this little town. All we have is bowling and the movies. No body is perfect and know ones childrens are either. We are so quick to judge and point fingers. As an adult you look back we did those things to, as an adult you see the danger but as a child you dont. children are what they learn is not really accurate saying my parents broght me up right and i still did it. I never got hurt are hurt anyone eles thank God....
Some parents are really innocient they come home from out of town and your kids are throwing a party before you have time to get the situation under control here comes the law.
Then the parents get blamed for a open house party. It is a sad situation.
So before commenting you need to consider the facts there is always to sides to the story. And take a close look at yourself in the mirror before passing judgement.
there are alot of kids having parties most of them dont get busted for their parents are well known in andalusia.
Just pray and talk to your kids and hope and pray that they make the right decessions

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 3:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chats, Umm Nope never had this when I was young, I knew if I got caught my butt would be beat down! Every parent should always know where there children are and whom they are with. Sorry but its thinking like that, that creates these issues. The PARENTS are to blame no one else. My children are grown and have their own and I knew where they were and I wore their butts out when they went against the rulez, Now I see them raising their children with the same hand. We have the greatest lil grandchildren who respect others and abide by the rules, They know what NO means and know that there is a price to pay when they get out of line. The PARENTS should go to jail and I bet ya the parents will know where their children are from that point on. GEEEEZ Some just don't get it. Just because you break the law does not make it right for the children to follow suit. The real side to this story is very simple! PARENTS RESPONSABILTY! If they don't have it you can bet the FARM their kids wont either...

Posted by iamabookworm (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Please call and tell on your neighbors.................I'm thinking are we living in George Orwell's 1984, is this "Big Brother"? Wow!

Posted by ANDALUSIA222 (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 4:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOCK ALL THERE ASSES UP BEFORE THEY KILL ANOTHER INNOCENT PERSON. ABC KEEP ON KICKING ASS. WE (THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY MATTER) THANK YOU.

Posted by percephony (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The argument for this topic will always be bittersweet. My best friend in the entire world was killed the week of her high school graduation by some high school kids that were drinking...in celebration of their voyage out into the world. It's easy to argue that it isn't fair when you haven't lost someone in a tragic accident such as this, and it's hard to overlook it when you have. Regardless if people's safety could be guarenteed when drinking it would be different...but if these kids don't care enough to break the law by drinking underage, who says they care enough to not break the law by driving under the influence?

Posted by chats (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

beanstalk, iam so glad your family is so perfect, i hope and pray to GOD you never have to eat any of your words.

Posted by BF2C1 (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have not seen such dribble in all my life!

Posted by Kathy052 (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 4:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lord don't strike us now. I am not perfect no one is. I have work wrecks and seen what it does and how an innocent life is taken. We all did wrong as kids we all have hidden secrets in our closet. Lord am I glad that I wasn't perfect.Go after your night clubs that let minors in.????????? Just what I thought. They get caught the owner gets a slap on the hand. All is forgiven.I to was raise with a parent that I was scared to death of getting caught doing wrong. But I can sit here and say WE ALL HAVE DONE WRONG AND IF YOU ARE ONE OF THEM THAT HASN'T GREAT. I don't condone the drinking. But I am not one who is perfect. I am glad that everyone has done and tried and hung the quilty one's. I have done that same thing.

Posted by kalqulator (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 6:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey BF2C1, the word is drivel, not dribble. If you're going to be snarky, at least spell correctly. And yes, snarky is a word.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I truly understand the responses of “Its ok, I done it when I was that age.” The seeking out to justify the wrongs of our past by seeing someone else doing what we done is human nature. The truth of this entire story is where is the “Setting a GOOD Example” as an adult we are responsible for doing just that. These adults and children that were involved in this are proof that the “Example” was not set in their lives, Surely had it been they would not be foolish enough to do it again. We are what we eat some say, well with that being said, we are what our up bringing has allowed or disallowed. Think about that for a moment. No I am not saying that we are responsible for everything a child does or does not do every time, But I am saying the odds are less if they are taught right from wrong from the early years of their lives. Here we have adults breaking the law with the kids, and I honestly must say that every one of them knew that they were breaking laws by doing what they were doing.
Yes I am sure everyone including myself has crossed the line in our lives, but the important thing is did we learn from our mistakes? I know I have as well as many responsible adults and children have. Some are encouraged by adults and others to “Enjoy” themselves and not worry about the repercussions of their actions. No matter how you paint it, how you say it, what these people done was wrong. They got caught, now they will hopefully pay the price and (Keyword here) …*LEARN* from this mistake and enjoy happy lives and teach their children from their life’s lessons.
The days of throwing a child into the river to learn to swim have long been gone. Civilized humans (Keyword here) TEACH their children not baptism by fire but educate them.

Now as for living a perfect life as some said I have had by my postings… please re-read them and understand that I paid many consequences for wrong actions, But I LEARNED from them and in turn taught my children from them and now I enjoy watching them teach theirs as well. Very satisfying to see your work as a parent go forward into the future with the rewards from knowing what’s right from wrong.

And Chats thank you for your prayers, I pray that same prayer many times a day myself.

Posted by BF2C1 (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kalqulator, I used 'dribble' to mean insignificant bit. You thought I should have used 'divel' to mean nonsense. And yes, I was trying to be crotchety.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

dribble
   Show Spelled Pronunciation [drib-uh l] Show IPA verb, -bled, -bling, noun
–verb (used without object)
1. to fall or flow in drops or small quantities; trickle.
2. to drivel; slaver.
3. Sports. to advance a ball or puck by bouncing it or giving it a series of short kicks or pushes.
–verb (used with object)
4. to let fall in drops.
5. Sports. a. Basketball. to bounce (the ball) as in advancing or keeping control of it.
b. (esp. in ice hockey and soccer) to move (the ball or puck) along by a rapid succession of short kicks or pushes.

–noun
6. a small trickling stream or a drop.
7. a small quantity of anything: a dribble of revenue.
8. Sports. an act or instance of dribbling a ball or puck.
9. Scot. a drizzle; a light rain.

Origin:
1555–65; freq. of obs. drib (v.), prob. var. of DRIP

Related forms:
dribbler, noun
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drib·ble (drĭb'əl) v. drib·bled, drib·bling, drib·blesv. intr.To flow or fall in drops or an unsteady stream; trickle: Water dribbled from the leaky faucet. To let saliva drip from the mouth; drool. Sports To dribble a ball or puck. To advance by dribbling: dribbled down the court.v. tr.To let flow or fall in drops or an unsteady stream. Sports To move (a ball or puck) by repeated light bounces or kicks, as in basketball or soccer. To hit (a baseball, for example) so that it bounces slowly.n. A weak, unsteady stream; a trickle. A small quantity; a bit. Sports The act of dribbling a ball.[Frequentative of obsolete drib, alteration of drip.]drib'bler n.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

drivel   /drvəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [driv-uhl] Show IPA noun, verb, -eled, -el⋅ing or (especially British) -elled, -elling.
–noun 1. saliva flowing from the mouth, or mucus from the nose; slaver.
2. childish, silly, or meaningless talk or thinking; nonsense; twaddle.

–verb (used without object) 3. to let saliva flow from the mouth or mucus from the nose; slaver.
4. to talk childishly or idiotically.
5. Archaic. to issue like spittle.

–verb (used with object) 6. to utter childishly or idiotically.
7. to waste foolishly.

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Origin:
bef. 1000; ME dryvelen, var. of drevelen, OE dreflian; akin to draff

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driv⋅el⋅er; especially British, driv⋅el⋅ler, noun
driv⋅el⋅ing⋅ly; especially British, driv⋅el⋅ling⋅ly, adverb
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driv·el (drĭv'əl)
v. driv·eled or driv·elled, driv·el·ing or driv·el·ling, driv·els

v. intr.

To slobber; drool.
To flow like spittle or saliva.
To talk stupidly or childishly.
v. tr.

To allow to flow from the mouth.
To say (something) stupidly.
n.
Saliva flowing from the mouth.
Stupid or senseless talk.

[Middle English drevelen, from Old English dreflian.]
driv'el·er n.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I can see where both words might fit in this story! I bet ya there was allot of DRIBBILING going on once the ABC Boys caught up with them! And Yes There seems to be MUCH DRIVEL in the postings here! Or in some cases there might have been allot of DRIVEL going on when they got caught and in some cases I am sure the actions by a few caused some DRIBBLE once they got booked into the County Jail. Either way it seems that the less DRABBLE one creates the less the dribble there could be unless the DRIVEL continues in this posting! :-)

Posted by BF2C1 (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Excellent work Beanstalk. Googling is fun!

Posted by Ineedtobeheard (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My, my. When all is said and done, this same article will be revisited in this paper numerous times prior to, during and after graduation is done. It is truly sad that these things are happening, but it's also sad that we, as a society, are putting the blame on our upbringing, their upbringing...all in all, use common sense.....be as someone said, RESPONSIBLE, TEACH AND LEARN from your mistakes. I hope and pray that we don't have any alcohol or any other type fatalities this graduation season, but hey, everyone knows there will be, it's just a question of "who"...you can keep yourself and your children safe by not allowing these parties at your house, by not purchasing alcoholic beverages for underage kids, and by not condoning it if they bring it into your home. Take it away from them, call their parents, piss em off, it's alright....but you might, just might, save a life by reacting positively and not buckling under to these children...and that's what they are, they are still children, who have yet to go out into the world and really experience what life is and what it's all about. It's a tough world, and it takes a lot more than a high school education to make an adult....a lot more.

Posted by BeautifulMe (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I didn't go through all the posts but Kirsten Deans name caught my eye.

Kirsten Deans mom and family are our extended family. We all live right close together. I think it is ashamed people use these cases to start talking about things they shouldn't.
Her uncle was the one who was in the accident with her. He loved her more than anything!! NEVER would've wanted to hurt her. Going around bad mouthing people when you do not know them or their circumstances is ashamed. He may or may not have a drinking problem but I think it is awful to bring this up in case her mom reads this who loves her brother to death! So did Kirsten.

You guys have way too much time on your hands.....maybe you should all be out doing some good instead of all this back n forth on the internet 'gossiping'. That is mainly what goes on on this ASN comment forum....Mouth running. I suggest attending a church somewhere.

Not even going to comment on the war of drinking ages...greif...

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh my... Let me set this stright! You have NO IDEA who I am and who I am kin too. Kirstin was mentioned out of respect to her memory. She was a Wonderful young lady and just an Angel! Now as for her UNCLE that is another story. I will refrain from posting my feelings about him here since I do not want to take away from Kirstin. If your to foolish enough to think that my posting IN MEMORY OF her as a negitive than your right you are a VERY DISTANT kin. Her life was wasted by someone using Alcohol plain and simple. Like it or not thats the FACTS.

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Beanstalk. THE HOUNDS OF HELL WILL CHASE YOU DOWN for such insensitive comments. Get hold of yourself, boy!
We're supposed to be Christian minded, not hate minded, and your excuses do not hold ground.

That said, may I suggest as other States have wisely done: RAISE THE DRIVING AGE TO 18.
Oh my Goodness! Imagine that. "Oh @*#@!!! I won't have wheels til I'm 18!!!" And parents are sighing relief and saying, "THANK GOD!. Now I have a little more time to have with my CHILD."

But you know as well as I do, that the TV, Mags, MTV, have already gotten to our kids, and grandkids. Some of them think they can Partay like the rich kids in Hollywood, who drink, snort and shoot up, and are filmed, then replayed on Celeb Channels. Times have changed alright!

Do we really have control, or do we think we do.

Posted by nurse (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Beanstalk...I appreciate you reminding everyone of what a tragic loss Kirsten was. I am related to her father...Paul Dean. Her death has been very tough on all of her family, friends, and even those who just knew of her. I agree that comments about her uncle should be limited, but everyone knows where the guilt should fall.
Unfortunately, we live in a society where nothing is ever anybody's fault...and no one ever takes responsibility for their actions, whether they meant to do it or not! I guess it goes back to the old saying, "the devil made me do it."

Posted by sickntired (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 6:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm afraid I cannot agree with the fellow "posters" that I have found it so easy to agree with in the past.. The fact remains that this article IS NOT about drunk driving, merely a supervised "house party" which I do not see a problem with. Again, just taking the facts from the article.. these "minors" were of legal adult age, though I know that the legal drinking age is 21, I do not agree with it, and as a father, I can certainly vouch that if my son or daughter, at that age, decides to attend such a party, I certainly hope that it would be supervised by someone not in their teens. Times are changing my friends, as as you strive so hard to push your children away, and into a life of hiding bad habits and going God knows where to do them, you'll find that you will have far more to worry about than the "house party" where your kids were safe in a friends home. Personally, I remember a time when "underage" drinking was all to common, as well as riding dirt roads while consuming alcohol.... Yes, I said drinking and driving, and I believe that there were more of you guilty of it than you care to admit, I say if an 18 yr old wants to drink, and stays off the roads, then why not let them? The more supervised the better.

Posted by walnutwilly (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said, sickntired.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sickntired, imagine that! So let me see if I understand your post, This was not about Drunk Driving, Yes you are correct! The fact is the ABC guys beat them to it before they drove on our streets! Thank GOD for that ehhhh?

Oh and as I understand your post, “Merely a supervised house party” Ahhh I think I see your point, as long as the children are supervised it is OK to BREAK the LAW. (Interesting Defense, Might want to present that to their lawyers).

This I do not understand though, It reminds me to be an OXYMORON, you say, “These minors were of LEGAL adult age”. The Alabama law says they are “MINORS” under consumption. However I can understand this being your view point since you have as stated above that its OK to Break The Law as Long as They Are Supervised.

I also see where it is better that the party was supervised by adults and not teens while breaking the LAW. Umm Getting better to understand this now.

You also state that you feel it is SAFER that they DRINK, BREAK THE LAW at a FRIENDS HOUSE and not some stranger. Okie Dokie….

You also state that many of us are Drinking Drivers, Nope cant say that I have ever driven after drinking, I have always had someone that did not drink drive if I was out or just stayed home. So guess that’s one out of your stereotyping.

Last but not least, you state “THE MORE SUPERVISED THE BETTER” Guess when the ABC boys came in they thought the samething? They began supervising the HOUSE PARTY by the way the LAW says too.

Ok ABC guys after reading this rational I can see that with parents feeling as this person does your gonna be very very busy! Honestly I am sickntired of our LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS Babysitting “MINORS” when parents lack the responsabilty to do so.

LEO’s Please lockup all the parents as well, maybe they didn’t get caught when they were young and now they think that it is ok to be the “COOL” parent to allow their children to break the law as they done in the past, In this case it is justified as being SUPERVISED.

Posted by Kathy052 (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Beanstalk,give it a break. If you want to put the hurt on things. While they raise the prices of cigarrett why don't they raise the price on alcohol. But let the past lay still people have some common sense about the past you have brought this innocent family into this and if ya'll know them knew them then why mention the name of Kirsten. Let her rest let her family and friends rest.

Posted by floralasdrama (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 9:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK. I FEEL THE NEED TO COMMENT ON THIS. WHY YOU MAY ASK? WELL THIS IS WHY. I WAS ON OF THESE KIDS YEARS AND YEARS AGO WHEN MY MOTHER LET ME DRINK AT HOME WITH HER. ALSO DURING THAT TIME HIGH SCHOOLERS WAS COMING TO OUR HOUSE DRINKING AND DRIVING HOME. DANGEROUS YES. WRONG YES.. IM NOT POINTING BLAME ON ANY ONE. BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT IT IS NOT RIGHT TO DRINK UNDER AGE I HAVE BEEN THERE DONE THAT GOT THE T-SHIRT. AM I PROUD OF IT NO.!! WILL I LET ME SON DO IT NO!!! WILL I BE THE ONE TO PROVIDE IT FOR HIM NO!!!
WHETHER THE KIDS LEFT DRIVING OR NOT IT IS NOT RIGHT. I GIVE THE ABC BOARD KUDDOS FOR BREAKING UP THE PARTY. HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR EVERYONE ON HERE. DO YOU ALL REMEMBER THE DEPUTY THAT WAS A CLOSE FRIEND ON MINE GET KILLED BY A TEENAGER THAT WAS DRUNK AND HE TOO WAS ALSO KILLED DURING THE WRECK? WELL THAT IS WHAT I THINK OF EVERYTIME I HEAR OF MINORS AND ADULTS DRINKING AND THEN LEAVING WHERE EVER THEY ARE AND DRIVE HOME. WHETHER IT BE A MILE DOWN THE ROAD OR 20 MILES DOWN THE ROAD IT IS NOT RIGHT AND IT IS NOT SAFE..
I WANT TO ALSO SAY R.I.P. BRANDON LASSITER YOU ARE GONE BUT NEVER FORGOTTEN...
PLEASE ANYONE WHO READS THIS KNOW THAT IT IS NOT RIGHT TO DRINK AND DRIVE BUT EVERYONE DOES IT. I HAVE BEEN GUILTY OF IT MYSELF AT ONE TIME. BUT WHEN BRANDON GOT KILLED THAT WAS THE END FOR ME. YOU HAVE TO BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT WHO IS ON THE ROAD THAT HAS BEEN DRINKING THAN WORRIED ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE GOING AND HOW FAST YOU CAN GET THERE. I THINK THAT THE DRINKING AGE SHOULD BE RAISED AND NOT LOWERED.
R.I.P. ALL YOU HAVE BEEN KILLED BY A DRUNK DRIVER!!!

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 9:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kathy052, Ok now I am to blame LOL.. As floralasdrama put it and as I have said in the past, BREAK THE LAW in any manner is wrong. Also as I have posted you do not know me, But I attended all 3 funerals that week, and thats all I will say, ENOUGH of allowing children to drink! Enough of bashing our LEO's for doing a dang good job! 3 Funerals in one week should have taught this community a life lesson! All from Drinking and BREAKING THE LAW! 3 lives wasted because someone thought it was OK to DRINK and BREAK THE LAW!

Posted by gladtobefromandy (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

beanstalk... Ive been reading your post and i agree with you. Put these kids in juvie and these parents in jail.. its NOT okay for this to happen and these people think its fine.

Posted by winkie (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The only way to keep it out of the hands of children is ban drinking in Alabama. Lets vote Alcohol illigel in Alabama.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 6:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Beanstalk I bet your one those people that drives 35 in a 45 mph speed zone.Haha you probably are also a very bitter and angry,I bet as you read this you have an angry scowl on your face haha. It sounds like you missed out on a lot of things when you were growing up,or you were a nerd that told on everybody Haha.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lookeyhere, Ummm Nope in fact at first it brought a laugh because I see that the only defense to my post as being factual and truthful are personal attacks which bring nothing to the table but ones lower standards of name calling etc. But than it brought a sad feeling, knowing that the real problem is still condoned by some adults. Sorry Lookeyhere, the many faces of death that you seem to want to continue to ignore faded your attempt at humor. Sadly it takes something hitting close to home before it makes a change in ones way of thinking, but sometimes it don't even matter. Now the later is truly sad. Not to many years ago the National Negro Foundation I think it was called had an ad on TV, it ended with, "A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE" I feel that applies very well to some of the posting here on this subject. But I will remind you that this is NO JOKE, People die from these mistakes others are making. I hope this never comes to visit anyone, but seeing these post I have a strong feeling it wont be long before we see another funeral of a young child.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 7:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let me apologize, I made a mistake, below is the actual information on the Quote I used in above post. Also please note that even MTV was mentioned, for those who would like to know more I provided the link.

It is the slogan of the United Negro College Fund. Take a look at the site's homepage via the Related Link.
Originally, the phrase was going to be "A mind is a damned thing to waste" but they felt the language was too strong. Also, one of the men who worked on the campaign had a son who went on to influence societal thinking in his own way as a president of MTV.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_or...

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Beanstalk you seem to be confused,perhaps your prescription of prozac ran out.Hahah just kidding,anyway you are the one saying everyone that drinks will be out on the road.Now that is just not true.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lookeyhere,

Your reading comprehension needs some work in my opinion, if you got that from reading my post. I will leave it up to you to go re-read them if you so like. However what I continue to find sad is that your still trying to make this a "Funny" and make it personal. This is a very serious problem, if you find humor in the Breaking of the Laws and Humor in the loss of a LOVED one, I might suggest you need some serious attention. This will be my last post on this matter and to you directly from this point forward. Good luck to you and I will pray that wisdom might come your way.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No Beanstank, you need reading comprehension. I in no way think someone loosing there life is funny. Now on the other hand,I can just picture you riding around town in your 1980's Pinto, mad at the world. Hahah now thats funny!

Posted by gladtobefromandy (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 6:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hmmm... "losing". Now who needs comprehension? Its okay lookey.. we still ♥ you.. =)

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 6:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There's alot of MONEY involved in this project of watching and arresting teenage drinkers and their parents. More so than that of pedaphiles or murderers. That's what we find to be incongruous. Where is this money going? Does the County profit from these arrests? Is it SOLELY for the "saving of lives"?
Just asking. Many of us are just asking.

Posted by ourrights (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 11:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kinda of off the subject but i have 2 questions that maybe ya'll can help 1: in alabama are you and adult at 18 or 19?
2:if you are of legal adult age how can you constitutionally take their rights or privileges away?

Posted by deployed09 (anonymous) on May 8, 2009 at 6:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey folks this is my first time posting a comment here on this sight, and I enjoy reading the different views people have. So here goes, I have ran across this guy that purchased the drinks for the kids. This is not the first time he has been caught buying the juice and Im afraid it want be the last. I say lock his rearend up for a long time and let big bubba take care of him for awhile. I also think anyone who gets caught buying alcohol for underage kids needs to have there picture placed at all stores that sell alcohol so they know not to sell to these idiots. Oh and by the way his bond should have been at least uh say a million. He also goes by the name "SNOWMAN". ALERT ALERT !!!!!!!!!!!! Keep your kids away from his IDIOT.

Posted by deployed09 (anonymous) on May 8, 2009 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If Im not mistaken I think this is Snowdens a.k.a. Snowman third time being caught. Thats why his bond was $69,000.00. Still not quite high enough, lock him up and hang his picture in every store in covington county. Revoke his licence for life, then people might get the picture. Someone has to be the lab rat. All in favor say I. It all boils down to what is your childs life worth.

Posted by outlaw11 (anonymous) on May 8, 2009 at 6:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To deployed09: I...to the rest of you, the ABC & DTF both do a fine job, but, do you remember two years ago when another beer party was busted up, but, noone was arrested,charged,fined,and no names were in the paper? well, that was because the adults in that bust were influential country club people w/friends in the courthouse...so, it was swept under the rug. My only problem with all this is that not all of these busts are treated the same, so, shape up ABC agents, or, maybe one day someone will be working undercover and turn the tables on you. Also, as a veteran, I feel that noone should be allowed to serve in the Armed Forces until they reach "legal age"; when they can "legally" buy beer, then and only then should they be allowed to carry a loaded weapon into combat on foriegn soil as a representative of this country. I was a 19yo Army Sgt, combat vet, who could only buy liquor on a military installation (1968-1972)...I could vote, marry, pay taxes, fight, but was not old enough to buy beer...this is wrong, but, it is the law. These adults and kids were wrong...if people want change, then they have to get a politician to format a bill, put it thru Congress, and get a law passed/changed...until then, things like this will continue on a regular basis as they always have and when the "Snowman" is out of the picture, someone else will take his place...just human nature. That's all I have to offer on this subject, except that I lost a 17yo daughter to a driver on drugs (not alcohol) her senior year...the driver was a 76yo female.

Posted by Dewbaby (anonymous) on May 8, 2009 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hello everyone! This is my first time posting on here... So....with that being said....Before I post my opinion on the subject at hand here... I wanna do a few "shoutouts"
1st... ""Beanstalk"".. You seem to have an opinion on many different subjects posted on here! You really need to get a life!!!! Oh, and please don't reply back to me... I don't care what you have to say.
2nd....""lookeyhere"" "HIGH FIVE" I agree with ya on the prozac! lol
3rd.... """deployed09"" You hit the nail on the head! Very well stated!
NOW... "My Opinion"
This scumbag SNOWMAN has done this, plus alot of other illegal things so many times, I'm glad he got caught. His bond should have been $1million for this and all the crap he didn't get caught doing! Anyone that knows him, knows this! And now last but not least... As deployed09 stated..."SNOWMAN" ALERT ALERT !!!!!!!!!!!! Keep your kids away from his IDIOT.

Posted by deployed09 (anonymous) on May 9, 2009 at 1:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To outlaw11, my sympathy goes out to you. As for the laws of this land yea changes are needed and fast. Im in the military as I speak, Im sitting in Iraq at this very moment. I am proud to serve my country, and I think every able body citizen should serve (male,female) in some aspect. Reason being is the military teaches 7 values and with these 7 values are as follows: LOYALTY,DUTY,RESPECT,SELFLESS-SERVICE,HONOR,INTEGRITY and PERSONAL COURAGE. If these 7 values were followed by everyone, you wouldnt have to worry about adults buying alcohol for minors, drinking and driving, drugs and favortism for the ones who think thier better than the next. In the military in most cases your treated as equal. But in reality we all know that aint gonna happen, that was just my opinion. And yes my opinion on the age of buying alcohol should be 21. My opinion on the age were the goverment makes you sign up for the selective service should also be 21, and not before your 18 birthday. Because we all know that the military is strickly volunteer. Hey Dewbaby seems like Im not the only unfortunate covington county citizen who knows snowman.
Maybe we could put up ALERT signs through out the county with his picture on them.......ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by outlaw11 (anonymous) on May 9, 2009 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

deployed09, I was not aware that we had any south'bama folks in the sand...good to hear from you...don't mean to turn this comment section into fanfare, but, how are things and when do you come back to the "real world"? I'm glad that you and many,many other military personnel I've had the chance to talk to, agree that everyone should have to serve in some capacity for at least 2 years and that anyone entering the military should be 21yo. I had too many 'kids' in 'Nam, even though I was only 19 when I made Sgt and 20 when I was promoted to SSgt (Special Forces, 1st Group,Airborne); never lost but 1 man...it still haunts me...well, keep commenting and I'll keep responding...I would email if I had your email address...my sister-in-law is in the Bagdad area somewhere...she is a LTC (Army), with about 2 months left...so much for that...I hope that whichever Judge hears Snowman this time will give him " time" so he can clear his mind...I, also, feel that he was buying beer at only one store and that clerk knew what he was doing, so the clerk should go down,too. Just my opinion. Good luck, deployed09.

Posted by deployed09 (anonymous) on May 9, 2009 at 6:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

outlaw11 thanks, well I have about six more months left here and then I can return to greener pastures. And about snowman he will get whats coming to him, its just that simple. I just hope the judge will make an example out of him. Oh and there is a few of us here from L.A. (lower alabama) Im sure we will meet again here at the gossip forum. Until next time stay safe and god bless.

Posted by outlaw11 (anonymous) on May 9, 2009 at 10:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

deployed09...I returned home (Andalusia- really-Rose Hill), in 1998, medically disabled from a problem at the Nashville VA Hospital, where I was directing a job under Corp of Engr's contract...I somehow contracted TB and damn near died from it, but, it cost me my life and lively-hood...2 1/2 years later, I beat the odds, but, now live on 1 part of 1 lung...yet, to look at me, you can't tell that I'm disabled, until you see me walk 50 yds and loose my breath...well, during that time, there was a young black man here in Andy who dealt drugs, supplied liquor, sex, etc., to our high school students, a lot of them were well known...his alias began with a 'J' and I can't remember the name, but, last year it all caught up with him...not the DTF/ABC, but, DEA from down around Gulf Shores came up and got him...maybe you remember him...he had a common first and last name, graduated from AHS, and somehow, lived the life until he was busted at 24yo. He bought beer, supplied drugs, etc., and lasted for about 6 years before being busted. I just can't remember his "J" alias...but, we were so happy that he had been busted...screwed up so many of our teens' lives. Maybe Snowman took his place, don't know...take care.

Posted by outlaw11 (anonymous) on May 9, 2009 at 10:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

deployed09...oh yeah, you mentioned the 7 points...I started out with the 173rd Airborne Bde (as a LRRP)...we said this, "Duty,honor,God,Country"...in that order...you see, many of us were Am Indians...then in the Special Forces we simply said (in the immortal words of SSgt Barry Sadler) "May you always get what you deserve". I've lived by this (and my belief in my ancestors' ways) and always tell people who ask me to give an opinion on something, "May you always get what you deserve". Your 7 points are well received and yes, a good outline to follow, but, not gonna happen...anyway, good idea.

Posted by outlaw11 (anonymous) on May 10, 2009 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

deployed09...woke up today...name was 'Junebug'...goodbye...ABC/DTF had nothing to do with it...

Posted by deployed09 (anonymous) on May 11, 2009 at 12:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I dont guess I know the fellow your talking about, not by (junebug) I might know him by his real name. There is always gonna be a junebug or a snowman we all know that. The thing is we need to know who they are, so we can try to put a stop to all the nonsense. You say your from the Rosehill area, im from the Harmony community. Its probably safe to say that your a Straughn High School alumni. Have a good day and I'll talk at you later.

Posted by dixiegirl (anonymous) on May 11, 2009 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know of junebug and am also glad he got busted. I watched him sell drugs all day long from his front porch about 7 or 8 yrs ago. He made no effort to hide it and never got caught even though he lived in a trailer park!The ones I feel sorry for are all the kids he fathered. Their mother is also a jailbird so what chance do they stand. So many lives are ruined by greedy lowlifes. Parents, beware!

Posted by Hunner (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So you drink a beer you get $69,000 bond...BUT the guy that starved the horses only gets $3000 bond. I understand that underage drinking is a crime, but what the guy did to the horses deserves way more than $3000.

Posted by 3kids (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

for people to comment on someone that they are "supposedly" related to and not even know how to spell their name is a crying shame. Kirsten is how you spell her name, not Kirstin. As far as "NURSE" goes, why don't you get THE FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEFORE YOU GO TO TYPING???? YES Losing Kirsten was the most horrific thing that anyone in her immediate family could have ever imagined. But please know your facts before you post, Mitch, her uncle, who loved and adored her, was NOT GIVEN A DUI the night of the accident, as he did not have enough alcohol in his system to give him one. Secondly, he has not "racked up numerous DUI's" since the accident. And for the record, he did not "kill" her as you so boldly stated, there was deer in the road the night of the accident, causing them to swerve. You might as well been driving behind the vehicle Kirsten was in and it could have resulted in the same outcome.

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THANK YOU 3 KIDS ! You are the only one here speaking of this wonderful girl that has made any sense.
May she rest in peace. Thank you!

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

3kids since you brought it up, Was he not arrested after the accident in connection with the accident? Did he not post bond? Was there not a Grand Jury? Sorry I might have missed all the above. Just curious. Oh and he has not been arrested and booked into the Covington County Jail since the accident with a DUI? Again just want to clear up any miss understandings. The TRUTH is very important.

PS: I do appologize for miss spelling Kirstens name, I only knew her from the school briefly, but my take on her was she was a very sweet young lady. And Sadly missed by many I am sure.

Posted by 1ofakind (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Beanstalk you sure do think you know alot about this case, and after all it has been 5 years since this ACCIDENT occured. You must have been in the CCJ yourself or have close connection to her "biological father". Because most of us normal people who really knew the people in the ACCIDENT all know that A FAMILYS LOVE CAN NEVER BE BROKEN....And no matter the outcome of this sad ACCIDENT there will be only one judgement day when we all will stand in JUDGEMENT..No need to reply there is nothing you can say that will make a hill of beans to me....

PHILIPPIANS 4:13

Posted by 3kids (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Beanstalk-1ofakind hit the nail on the head. You do seem to think you know so much about this. But yes he was arrested the night of the accident, but not given a DUI. Yes he has been arrested since then and given 1 DUI. Yes he is serving time for things that happened that night and on one other occassion. However, people can make mistakes, mistakes that can cause a lot of pain and heartache for many people. I guess your just one of those people who have never made a mistake. Just hope you never find yourself making one. This family has lost a lot, but one thing that they still have is a family bond that will never be broken, by busy body gossipers who don't know what they are talking about. Kirsten is and always will the heart of that family and is what helps keep them united. Kirsten and her family have a love that not many people will ever know. Most families that would have went through what they have been through, would have been divided or would have fell apart. Not that family, they are stronger than ever and sometimes people from the outside have a hard time understanding that. Kirsten will always be remembered - no matter what anyone says or does. And if you had known her very well at all, YOU would know that.