Posted by winkie (anonymous) on May 13, 2009 at 10:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Great Job,Meeks, but I would like to know why did it take years of complaining to get this done?

Posted by ItsAboutTime (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 5:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you Sheriff Meeks, deputies and AL Dept of Ag/Ind investigators. Keep this guy from ever having animals again. He obviously cannot deal with the responsibility. Just imagine the mess if he had a child!

Posted by justice (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 6:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

there is one at the end of horn hill road where dirt road begins just like the horse shown on this picture been like that for more than a year i know of

Posted by Blondie (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Shove his butt in a pen like that with no food or water, and let him see what he was putting those animals thru!! I think when someone is convicted of such a terrible act like this that they should be done like sexual predators and have to register, and not permitted to have any animals at all!!

HANG A BIG SIGN IN HIS YARD!!!!

Posted by ArmyDad (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 7:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My question is..if this has been an ongoing problem for 3 years, where was Red Level's police dept?

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Devils Advocate here, I do not know anything about this but what I read here, my questions are as follows,
Was it because the person did not care and was willing and wanting to starve these animals? Was he out of a job and was unable to care for them and to proud to ask for help? And if there are so many willing to come to the aid of these horses now where were they before it was a complaint? Did anyone try to help with the care of them? After 3 years did anyone offer to help? Just curious, seems we really get upset over the children and animals as well we should but I just wonder with everyone involved in these things why no one steps up to help prior to the slam dunk. Ok let the POST’S begin!
FYI I do not condone the wanting and willing of harm to any living creature, Human or animal.

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 7:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm glad that the horses are being cared for now also, but Beanstalk makes an excellent point! Where was the concern before?

Posted by devorah1952 (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank-you. abusers ARE THE WORST KIND OF CRIMINALS!

Posted by Ineedtobeheard (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm glad the horses are being cared for now, but this is just one of many incidents of this nature. It is expensive to raise, house horses, but they must have food, shelter and water. If this man was too "proud" to ask for help, then he should have at least given these horses to someone, or had someone take them to the sell so that someone who could afford them could get them and they wouldn't have had to suffer the way they did. From the picture here, it's obvious this has been an ongoing problem. That horse did not get like that in a manner of days or weeks, so if the guy lost his job, if that's the excuse, then again, get rid of the horses, let someone take them that could afford them. Anyways, I'm glad they are safe now, and hopefully this person will not be allowed to have horses again, though I'm sure there are ways around that....

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well I just hope that I am wrong here but I feel the future will see more and more of this and worse. The economy is not what some are painting it. Gas prices are soon to be $5.00+ per gallon, Your food will go up at least 200% and your light bill will be up as well, Many people will be trying to find ways of keeping a roof over their head as well as buying the food to keep their family nourished and medications they need to live. The day of the yard Horse will soon pass and the strong will survive. Both Human and Animal. The media has painted this and so has our Government, both World and Local. People the coffee has been brewing for a very long time, it just might be too late to smell it for some. Be aware of what the REAL problems are, I hope that some that read this really understand what I am saying. I know mid summer is going to be an awaking for many nationally as well as locally.

I also want to remind our Christian readers what the book of Revelations says about Man turning against Man and Neighbor turning against neighbor and Brother turning against brother, ...

When you look out into the vast blue sky or the star filled nights keep in mind the bottom line is this, We only have GOD and each other. Remember this and you will see how really small this world is.

Nuff said.

Posted by beeinbonnet (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think that "beanstalk" is using this blog to promote gloom and doom. Animals have been neglected and abused since bible times, same as children. Money is not always the culprit. I have seen wealthy families neglect their animals. Since God gives animals to us , we all must be good stewards of our gifts. Also, let's take action and report possible violations in a timely manner.

Posted by andygirl09 (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

this man was doing everything in his power in my oppinion to care for these horses form the looks of the horse in the picture it was very old once horses hit a certain age it is very hard for them to gain weight no matter what you do! and as for it going on for three years they had help because had they not had help the horses whould have been taken away at the begining!!! has anyone stoped to think maybe just maybe there was a family problem or stupid neighbors trying to get people in trouble?? maybe they did have people helping them with the horses and SOMEONE else came in and called on them because of ONE horse who appears to be very old! therefor the horse will not gain weight like its suppose to. i am not for animal abuse but this man did not abuse his animals.. GOD BLESS YOU CHRIS

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

By the time Obama and his liberal democrat cronies have a whole year in office and you've lost many of the freedoms that you've always taken for granted, you won't be so quick to dismiss Bean Stalk's post as doom & gloom. We're already loosing them! I'm just glad that God is the one really in control. I just have no idea how bad he will let it get, before he lets the world know who is truly in control.

Posted by beeinbonnet (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Andygirl, are you qualified to say that a horse has been abused/neglected or just old? Maybe you should leave the reporting of FACTS to the proper officials.

Posted by beeinbonnet (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't agree we should blame Obama,Bush, or anyone for this man's crimes. Lets don't look to lay blame on everyone else for our own transgressions.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If you read some of these comments you would think the world is going to end today. Anyway back to the topic,Andygirl, I am no expert but I think most people can tell if an animal has been abused. For example,just take a look around,is there food for the animal? Is there water for the animal? What about shade or shelter for the animal? It don't take a brain surgeon to figure out if an animal is being abused.

Posted by Anne (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BeeinBonnet, your point is well taken.

Is there not a Humane Society contact number in the county?

Depriving animals of water and food in enclosed pens, is a form of EUTHANASIA - extremely painful, as organs begin to shut down. We see alot of these conditions just going for a drive.

Before buying a horse people must be realistic. It takes alot of care, time and money to properly care for just one horse! Not to mention the proper tack, Vet, and Ferrier (blacksmith) costs. I've seen horses with paddle-like hooves that can barely walk.

Alot of people go to horse sales, like in Luverne, pick up a horse or more for 200 or $300 for the kids and grandkids. Soon the kids get tired of feeding and watering, grooming, and riding - they go on to cars. Their parents don't have time to care for these horses, so they are left out to pasture, if there is any pasture with water available.

This is all too prevalent around these parts. And it sickens me to see. Seldom does reporting have any effect whatsoever, and the horses continue to go down hill, especially in the hot summer months.

I really don't like this story at all, but I am relieved to see the Star News has a headline on it with pictures.
This should be fair warning to others.

Posted by andygirl09 (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i agree that most people can tell if an animal is abused but you have to take into consideration of the horses age and your right it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure it out but there are so many things that play a factor into what was wrong with the horse! a vet could look at the horses teeth and tell you that the horse is at least in its mid to late 20's and the average life span of a horse is 19 years so. if any of yall have horses ya'll know that the older they get the thiner they get and it doesnt matter if you give them oat hay sweet feed range pellets 50 times a day! it doesnt matter how much protien you give a horse in its 20's its not gonna gain weight fast or if at all! people need to realize that just like with people animal's body changes with age.. that horse is old you can tell from the picture that the horse is old that its not abused or neglected and i am able to tell because my family and i rescued horses for quite some time. CHRIS did everything in his power to save the horse i can garentee you! but what none of yall no it alls take it to mind are the following: family emergencies!(can you plan an emergency i dont think so) help from friends ( are your friends reliable 24/7 i doubt it) so until you know all the facts i dont think any of yall are qualified to speak what ya'll think yall know and i just want to say GOD BLESS YOU CHRIS AND I SUPPORT YOU NO MATTER WHAT YOU DID EVERYTHING YOU COULD..

Posted by beeinbonnet (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My friend has a horse that is 22 years old and doesn't look anything like that ! If what you say is true, he should have shown mercy to the animal and put it down. You don't have a family emergency for three years.

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

andygirl09
one question. Are you related to this person arrested for not watering or feeding his 9 horses no matter how young or old they are?

If it was one of my kinfolk, and he no longer could take care of them, I'd find a way to help him out, and his horses, by intervening. Intervention! That's what you have to do when people are in denial.

Sure don't like to read stuff like this - it's like learning about a person who got scalded.

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

andygirl 09
I hope you aren't the people who "rescued horses" in Florala area who came from Florida?

This is scandalous! Old horses or not, a horse HAS TO HAVE WATER and pasture/feed! Worming, hooves trimmed, TEETH FLOATED by a professional. When horses age, their teeth wear down unevenly, and must be floated or shaved. This allows them to chew their feed, hay or grass. Who are you, anyway, to talk about horses and their care! You have the hair on the back of my neck standing on end.

And you ceratinly do not need horses of any age or kind!

Posted by andygirl09 (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

shamrock no i am not related to this person i just feel as though he did every thing in his power to help his animal and shamrock no i am not but you people need to leave this man alone and stop talkin all this crap about him until you know all the facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by andygirl09 (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

shamrock you have no room to tell anyone they do not need horse of any kind or age who do you think you are! a vet because i know what i am saying about horse you have no room to say who needs them and who doesn't. and he is not a family member of mine and i feel as though he had the help he needed ya'll need to get all the facts of everything before you go off saying stuff. has anyone ever thought that MAYBE he did have people helping him but the people who were suppose to be helping him didn't do what they were suppose to do!!! ya'll are just going off one thing yall need to look at the big picture ya'll have no right to sit here and criticize this man on things that ya'll dont know all the facts to he doesnt need enemies he needs support because he is being charged for things that were out of his controll and beeinbonnet no you do not have family emergencies for 3 years but if the problem was serious three years ago it would have been taken care of but it wasnt serious they had done nothing wrong three years ago! and when they were being investigated they had help from family or friends because had it been serious the animals would have been seized three years ago! and do any of yall know what have happened or anything were ya'll personaly at there proptery to prove there was no food or hay or water can any of yall prove that there wasn't a family emergency or a friend that was suppose to help but didnt i dont think so so yall need to just leave the man alone and let him be i have faith he tried everything he could to help those animals

Posted by beeinbonnet (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is the News paper talking crap, is Meeks talking crap? Stupid people don't need animals. I don't think you need animals. Abuse is abuse. I'm getting off this blog , think I have struck a nerve. You can't argue ignorance!

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well Andygirl09, If what you are saying is true.That there was no abuse of animals,then someones got one hell of a lawsuit.Its just hard to believe they would go through with all this for nothing.

Posted by andygirl09 (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

beeinbonnet i dont know who you are but you have no room to tell anyone what they can and what they cant have news flash this is AMERICA and one person can not say what others can have and i have nothing to do with this case i just know the facts where none of yall do so if you dont know them don't freaking talk about it if yu dont know.. lookeyhere the facts are all around it doesn't take rocket science to know that this hasn't been going on for three years if it had it would have been taken care of do any of yall realize how all the stuff yall are saying is affecting the family.. yall have no consideration for others or any kind of respect!!! yall should all just stop judging people

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I totally agree with beeinbonnet's last post.

Posted by andyman (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

“Animals are like children,” Meeks said. “They cannot take care of themselves. We arrest and prosecute for child abuse and neglect; therefore, we will arrest and prosecute for animal abuse and neglect.”
well well i never seen a child abuser just get a 3000.00 bond ! same ol B.S. another ronnie denney case swept under the rug!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by andygirl09 (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yall dont even know anything about anyof this so just respect the man and his family and stop judging them i can not stress that enought now had he abused an animal i would have a different opinion but he didnt so just have some respect or did yall parents not teach you what that is!!!!!!! eh

Posted by Anne (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

andygirl09
First I want to thank Mr. Barton and the two people for taking over the care of these pitiful horses.

anydgirl, Surely you are not accusing the Sheriff, Dennis Meeks, OF LYING, as well as the investigators with the Ala. Dept. of Agriculture and Industry and the county deputies who went to the scene.

If you are going to continue putting your foot in your mouth, you should think about hiring an attorney for your friend Mr. Marvin.

It doesn't matter if he trusted relatives or friends to see after the 9 horses, they are his horses and he is responsible for their proper care.

If he could not care for them, then he should have been merciful enough to either give them to the people who now have 2 of them, or put them down so they do not starve to death.

You refuse to address what Shamrock or myself wrote concerning what that care entails [is]. And that care takes money to pay for services the horse needs like worming, hoof trimming, teeth shaving when they get old, Equine shots, shelter from storms and sun, WATER, FEED AND HAY, pasture, which means grass.
If you or this man can't afford this, you are not ready to have a horse.

You don't own horses that do not get the above mentioned care, do you?

I'm not sure what "crap" we are talking about here. No one is attacking him. But obviously you and Mr. Marvin are over your heads in owning so many horses.
The best help you can give Mr. Marvin is your SILENCE.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

andygirl09.... I don't see where I judged anyone. This is forum were people discuss news articles. Now not everyone is going to agree. Why don't you tell us how you know so much about this? Since your not family.

Posted by andygirl09 (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lookeyhere i am not saying you your self are judging but all the people talking about him saying rude things about him need to stop and as for anne read my comments no where in there did i say sheriff meeks was lying nore did i accuse him of it so read carefuly before you stick your foot in your mouth

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

andygirl09, the man had 9 horses penned up with no food, water or shelter. They didn't even have a cell phone to call someone to bring them some. What more facts do you need. The cell phone comment is just sarcasm, but you'd have to be brain dead to use the arguments that you use!

Posted by girlnextdoor (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Andygirl 09-

Three years ago, he had only two horses.The two of those horses were eating dirt to survive, which was obvious from their stool. Both of those horses looked the same as the one in the picture provided. How he ended up with seven additional horses, I'll never know. If you would have read the article and understood it (and really knew all that you say you do), you would have read that there was an ongoing investigation. Let me explain; You see, the way you are going on about all of this, it was like someone made a complaint yesterday and all of the officials high-tailed it out there and arrested him. That wasn't the case. The incident has been being investigated, thus they have been building a case, with hard evidence, for quiet some time. Once they had the evidence they needed, they took action. You can't just call up the police and tell them that someone is abusing an animal or child, there is a process and protocol that must be followed. If there is no evidence, there is no case nor any legal action taken.

As far as people saying rude things about this guy, where in any of these comments has anyone said-Mr Marvin is an idiot, Mr Marvin doesn't need horses. I've read through the comments a few times, nobody has said anything like that. Granted, a few remarks were made saying that if cannot care for the horses, he doesn't need them. That, my friend, is the truth. Though it is the truth, it isn't being rude nor is it degrading the man. Nobody said the guy was a bad person. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. There were no fingers being pointed until you begin doing so yourself.

Posted by BobbyJack (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hambone, where are you when we need you?

Posted by Hunner (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i understand this guy might have had problems, but im sure he had water to drink at his house there is no excuse not to atleast give them some water. Its people like this that should be taken out back and shot.

Posted by Anne (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The more we hear about this situation, the worse it gets!

Now we find out that he had only 2 horses 3 yrs. ago, and they were eating dirt to survive.
If they are eating dirt, they are colicking. That pain is EXCRUCIATING in the gut of a horse, and that's why they roll. If they're not shot with a pain reducer, they continue to roll and cause their gut to twist!

Folks, I think we are discovering a sub-culture in horse ownership in what THESE FOLKS call a horse's "BASIC care". I hope and pray this does not spill over into other areas, such as young children - the ones that Shefiff Meeks was referring to in the article.

Andyman seems to further express this type of sub-culture and seems proud of it. Perhaps they need to be investigated themselves.
It is also astonishing that they don't understand the damage they are further causing against they're friend, Mr. Marvin.

We are so grateful to you, Sheriff Meeks and the Alabama Ag. and Ind. investigators for ending this abuse, even if it took 3 years. It's over, and hopefully all 9 will make it.
Please continue with the other cases that have been reported.

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Girlnext door: thank you for the further info, and for your understanding of what the concerned people have written about this awful situation.

There's one thing I want to make clear to Andygirl where she claims she never accused the Sheriff of lying. Her statement was "were ya'll personly at there property to prove there was no food or hay or water". No, we the concerned people were not there, but the Sheriff and the investigators were there. She in as much has accused them of lying.

I really feel sorry for these folks. I do. Something just ain't right with them. And yes, we have to say: may God help them.

Posted by winkie (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Andygirl saying the Sheriff and the investigators are liers are akin to Nancy Pelosie saying "The CIA are liers". Come on give me a break we all know Mr. Marvin neglected his animals the same as Nancy knew about the waterboarding.

Posted by MO (anonymous) on May 14, 2009 at 11:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm very glad to see that the propper authorities took action and were able to get the horses the help they needed.
To andygirl: age of a horse is not an excuse to be this skinny. Unless there is an underlying health issue horses can easily live into their late 20's and look good. Of course it would take the appropriate feed and care.

Posted by andalusiaadvocate (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 12:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I cannot tolerate any kind of an abuser - however, and I have said this many times before... There is NOT one of you here that can stand in judgement on ANYONE! I do know this family, and I do know many details that have not been released to the public, and no one knows all of the details. This family just got these horses about 3 WEEKS ago - not years, there are numerous health problems with many of the animals, this is more than likely a retalitory complaing, and their story has not been told. Keep in mind people, judge and YE SHALL BE JUDGED!

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 8 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What I see here I thought I would never see in my lifetime, But like it or not it is here. Congratulations to the Andalusia Star News for providing this blog for all to see what the real story is. Never mind the storyline above, the real story is the posters of this blog. Never would I have thought in my Hometown I would ever see the likings of the Salem Witch Trials. The ugly stomach wrenching attacks on fellow human beings that are portrayed here. The Guilty before even a trial mentality. The name-calling, the threats, just very sad indeed. How this feeds the evil inside some people is just amazing. Call it doom and Gloom, but it is the TRUTH. Some of you have accused with only a newspaper story and found it to be factual. Others have just responded out of the horror of the terrible act that this person is accused of doing, yet with NO facts just a Story, Not seeing it just the story with a picture. Oh how easy it will be to lead the masses with the media and the rumor of just a story. Some proclaim to be praying for others that are in pain, and in another thread are damming someone for what they posted or are accused of doing. Thank you to the posters and the Star News for allowing the entire world to see how easy it is to Begin the Witch Trials right here in rural America. History does repeat itself.

PS: I am only posting my observations not standing in judgment of anyone person. Something to think about.

Posted by BeautifulMe (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree, this town has a huge HANG EM HIGH mentallity. They name call, gossip, and strow peoples names and families names through the dirt.

I don't know this man, the situation, or anything but I own horses. Mine have NO grass in their field. They get hay thrown to them several times daily. They get feed 3 x a day. Other than that there is NO food in their pens. Who is to say that this isn't how this man does it? I don't know the condition of the horses either but I wouldn't judge anyone based on what I read in this paper. It didn't say if the horses were emanciated or not. I like my horses leaner during summer and fatter during winter. Lots do.

This man may very well be guilty. He may very well not be. I mean, this is Covington County and we should all know by now how things run here most of the time.

No one has the right to judge, name call, trash talk, or anything of the matter. That just goes to show what poor character some of the people of this county have! Think about that people. JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED. It is only up to God and a court of law to judge this man.

I will be praying for him, his family, and his horses.

Posted by BeautifulMe (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You can tell which folks don't know a thing about horses.....

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

andalusiaadvocate:
This still does not address the fact that there was no water or hay for these horses. Why would he take them in, sick, old or what have you, if he couldn't provide basic, BASIC care?
Ya'll that know the "whole story" on this - why don't you explain it to an attorney and file a lawsuit?

Yes, we shall be judged - if we abuse people or animals. They are as much God's creatures as we are.
But, we are the one's with a soul and the ability to choose rationally - animals in our care depend on US and cannot choose who owns them or the conditions they have to live in, especially when they are too sickly and weak to jump the fence and escape.

"Details, details". The devil's in the details.

Posted by BeautifulMe (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Do you know how many times I have to go fill my horses water bucket up a day? Several. Who is to say they didn't show up at a time where it was empty for a bit????

Lots of things people don't consider before the HANG EM HIGH trials of the people of Cov. County!

OFF to fill my horses buckets up before someone passes by and accuses me of neglect =-)

Posted by andyman (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

it does not matter what bs you type in here against the maN GUILTY OR NOT COVINGTON CO. WONT DO NOTHING TO HIM! 3000 BOND??? COME ON .TOTAL BS. I THINK IF THEY ARE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO LOCK SOMEONE UP FOR ANIMAL ABUSE THEY SHOULD BE HELD WITH OUT BOND. LIKE I SAID YOU ALL WILL SIT IN HERE TALK BS AND WASTE YOUR TIME TALKING THE BS AND YOU NEVER EVEN KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THESES CASES , JUST LIKE THE RONNIE DENNY CASE . NOTHING HAPPEN THERE JUST LIKE NOTHING WILL HAPPEN HERE . SO ALL OF YOU PROTECTING THIS GUY DONT WORRY HE WILL BE JUST FINE HERE IN GOOD OL ANDALUSIA,FOR THOSE WHO WANT JUSTICE IF HES GUILTY, WELL I GUESS YOUR S.O.L!!!!

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Shamrock, Are you with the Sheriffs Dept? The DA's office, A neighbor? Or have you even been to this location prior to the arrest? "Details" Yes they are important, What FACTS do you bring to this BLOG? Other than opinion and attacks what FACTS do you have other than what was printed in the NEWSPAPER? Please fill us in, Your postings seem to be filled with FACTS, Enlighten us please. And just one more question, You keep asking questions here that appear to be answers, Have you even talked with this man or his family? You just might be surprised!

Posted by BeautifulMe (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok, I finally saw a photo of a horse that was removed from this man. I agree that horse appears to be undernourished.

But as far as accusing this man of neglect...I can not do that at this time. I do not know him or the situation.

Anyone go to the horse sales? Where it is full of horses just like the one in the photo? Does anyone ever charge these owners? You never know what the circumstances are. Horses can get in bad health and get this way. Older horses are really hard to keep good weight on. Doesn't always mean neglect. People take in horses like this every day and try and condition them back up to standards but horse owners everywhere know that it takes time and isn't easy at all sometimes. This man could have had this horse for a short time and was trying to get it back up. You can't give a horse alot of food that is like this either. THey have very complicated digestive sysytems and you have to SLOWLY bump it up every few days or you run a greater risk of harming the horse.

I have a mare we spend over $250 a month on to feed on just her alone, not including the others. You can still see her ribs but she is in no way neglected. Can't always judge a book by its cover folks.

I still wouldn't judge this man by that horses appearance as I don't know all the facts like most of you don't who have already condemed this man. I don't know the actual details and I certainly don't go by word of mouth. That is the most unreliable evidence in the world...especially in our county.

If you want to discuss stories this paper puts out then be aware that this newspaper cares more about their 'sales' and putting some hot news out there than they care about actual people...their neighbors...their community. It isn't always fact. Things can be discussed without belittling yourself with your bashing attitudes and belittling others without facts. Think before you speak, or type people. Do us all a favor and help our county become a more dignified and friendlier place to live. People can discuss without being offensive or showing what little character they have themselves. Sad to see some peoples postings.

Trust in God that if this man abused his horses that he will be brought to a fair justice and that he will realize what he did and how to correct things for the future. Help people do this by leading by example. Don't you guys want people to overcome things and be better for it? Be better for your community? Or do most just love it when they see someone else making mistakes? Seems they get off on watching others in bad situations...

I usually don't follow up on these type things. I just try and put a post out there to make people think before they hate on others but it is really disheartening to know how many people have so much hate pent up in them.

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Beautifulme:
Have you had your mare wormed lately? Or have her teeth looked at to see if they need to be floated?
That's what horse people look for when horses don't hold their weight.
Again, the Sheriff stated himself - no water, no feed - emaciated horses. Take this up with the Sheriff, the Star News and the Investigators.
I am for the horses only. From the photo, Marvin doesn't appear to be dehydrated or undernourished. And he can hire a lawyer to defend him if need be.

But beanstalk and andygirl - It's all about THE MAN, isn't it. We've got to come to this man's defense, and put the horse bloggers in their place.
Ya'll argue with yourselves.

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Beautifulme:
You can purchase large horse watering containers for your horses from Tractor Supply.
Have fun arguing with yourselves.

Posted by FarRiver (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HELLO !!!! Did everyone forget thtat this is only 1 of 7 horses that were neglected??

As far as age for a horse , I still ride my 23 y.o. I jumped a 26 yo , My first horse (got him as a 6 month old) lived till 33---I never had a weight loss or gain issue...I do have 50 years of experience with horses..

I also reported this case to the Sheriffs dept. a year ago. As for facilities to handle this kind of thing there is none. Nor is it easy for some one to just drop off food. ( ever hear of a shot-gun? trespassing? butting in?)Not always taken kindly. Besides, If you throw a lot of food at ANY starving animal they will kill themselves trying to eat it all.

As far as what "meets the eye" ya'll ought to open yours.

This person IS guilty of neglect..There IS no excuse.

Posted by BeautifulMe (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have 2 100 gallon water tubs. Horses like lots of water, they drink alot. It has to be filled several times a day....Not that I have to defend myself. I am a horse trainer and have years upon years of horse experience. Yes, the mare has had lots of floating, is on a reg. worming schedule. See, shows how much you guys really KNOW about horses. If you are @ horses as much as I am you will definatly know about things like this. I am also a member of the horse rescue team searching for people. I am very reputable with hroses. Even do alot of vetting for myself and others......sad you guys think you are so worthy of judging others...I would hate to see any of you get on a jury....those poeple on trial wouldn't have a chance with some of these people.

Now if this has been going on for 3 years, apparently he hasn't been really neglecting the animals or our enforcement aren't doing their jobs....Blame can be placed in a lot of places but bottom line is you can't go around judging folks from what you read in this news paper.

Some people will never know right from wrong no matter how much you try to open their eyes. Misery enjoys company =-)

I have spoken my peace on this. Will be praying for lots of people regarding this matter.

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 15, 2009 at 11:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

FarRiver, I am proud to see that you Offered to help him with the horse's, I mean I assume you tried to help him and he refused hence you called the law I mean the shot gun would have really turned me off as well? Good to have such good citizens in the community! Also please maintain a copy of your above post so in the future you can share it with the judge when you get selected for jury duty and he will surely see to it that you are shown the exit "This person IS guilty of neglect..There IS no excuse." Thanks for being such an outstanding citizen! Makes me proud to be an American when I see such effort.

Hey I am ready to put him to the dunking chair, you know the ones they used in the Salem Witch Hunts? Hold him under water for 10 minutes and if he lives he is a witch! Hey lets go! Geeez sad sad sad

Posted by biscuitsandhoovergravy (anonymous) on May 16, 2009 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Horses are abused and there are 54 comments on here...people fighting and slangin off on each other and all kinda hell raising. An old man is murdered,his house set on fire and his invalid wife left to burn to death in her bed and there are 5 or 6 comments about that. What does that say about yall?

Posted by Beanstalk (anonymous) on May 16, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It simply states for me that I have nothing to add to the other story, seems Sheriff Meeks has a crew of Star News Blog Investigators solving that one. Me speaking only for myself, like to leave the investigations up to the ones that are trained to do it and just comment on the hangman style of bloging, Trust me B&HG when they arrest the suspect and others start burning him at the stake, I will be a post away from reminding those that accuse, try and convict all off a News Paper Blog. Have a Great day!

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 18, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

b.m., You are full of suprises and b.s.

"My mare has lots of floating?" Where in the pond? You don't know what floating is, do you, nor how it's done, nor how much it costs. (unless you read the above blogs that explain floating so you can answer this blog)

Your water bucket that must be filled several times a day, has turned into "2 100 gallon tubs".

You're "a horse trainer" and "do alot vetting for myself and for others"... like giving shots and worming? - something that doesn't require a license to practice?

"I am on the horse rescue team searching for people". Well, you missed this one. When found, you go to great lengths to excuse him.

I think you should let us know who you are, so folks can take advantage of your services, or we may already know who you are.

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on May 18, 2009 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SORRY READERS: I JUST COULDN'T RESIST AS MUCH AS I TRIED.

Posted by BeautifulMe (anonymous) on May 19, 2009 at 8:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You are a piece of work, I can only imagine what kind of poor soul you are to feed off this kind of stuff. I think they call your kind online a TROLL...???..

I don't have to explain myself to you. YOu should be ashamed of yourself for trying to belittle and start fights online to feed your need to try and be above others. That is really sad. And if you are really on the same equisearch team as I then you are a mighty two-faced person that sure doesn't have this tripped up attitude out there!! That would really be sad if someone like you has this type attitude and is on such a respectable force! YOU have my prayers. I hope you find some inner peace that lets you use a common sense head. Sad...

Posted by beeinbonnet (anonymous) on May 19, 2009 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Now , now beautiful, You said we must be kind and not call names in your earlier blogs. Shamrock didn't say he was on the search team with you! He wanted to know if YOU were , why didn't you get to this horse sooner. By the way do you know anything about horse chiropractics ?

Posted by Anne (anonymous) on May 20, 2009 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We've veered off track (no pun intended), from Marvin and the 9 horses.

The 7 horses, where did they come from, and who were the owners that didn't give basic care to begin with? I think there are alot of people involved for Ag & Ind to step in.

Some of us can't help but wonder that the real Trolls on this article were Andygirl, Girlnextdoor, Beanstalk, and Ms.Beautiful, to get attention off the horses and Mr. Marvin. While the non-trolls are only responding to blogs that really don't make good sense.

They also made some of us wonder if Mr. Marvin himself could be a 'Rescue Team' member.

Because, it's safe to say, the big Guns are not going to have a 3 year investigation which ends up with an arrest - if something very serious wasn't going on with this whole horse business.

For now, we must wait for the investigators' findings to be made public, and then everyone will know the facts and details.

I'll speak for myself that I am sorry if I ruffled some peacock feathers - I was and am genuinely concerned about the horses, and, Mr. Marvin, for his sake.

I just can't put cats and dogs in the same frame with such majestic creatures as horses, (as much as I love dogs) for they not only provide pleasure for us, but can be our work partners, and companions, who trust their well-being to THEIR OWNERS.

Posted by Anne (anonymous) on May 20, 2009 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VERY SORRY, TO GIRLNEXTDOOR - I do not include you in the list. My bad!